{"id":43006,"date":"2026-05-15T20:03:19","date_gmt":"2026-05-15T20:03:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/?p=43006"},"modified":"2026-06-17T15:30:14","modified_gmt":"2026-06-17T15:30:14","slug":"condensation-why-objective-reality-cannot-be-descartess-theory-of-thought-burman-common-notions-and-the-failure-of-the-strict-idea-model","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/condensation-why-objective-reality-cannot-be-descartess-theory-of-thought-burman-common-notions-and-the-failure-of-the-strict-idea-model\/","title":{"rendered":"Condensation: Why Objective Reality Cannot Be Descartes\u2019s Theory of Thought: Burman, Common Notions, and the Failure of the Strict Idea Model"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[<strong><span style=\"color:red\">NOTE:<\/span><\/strong>&nbsp;Words below in&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/dokumen.pub\/essays-on-descartes-meditations-reprint-2019nbsped-9780520907836.html\">magenta<\/a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/dokumen.pub\/essays-on-descartes-meditations-reprint-2019nbsped-9780520907836.html\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>blue underlined<\/u><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;are clickable hyperlinks. For many of the hyperlinked glossary items you may need to scroll down to see that entry after clicking on it. Hit the back button <img decoding=\"async\" width=\"20\" height=\"35\" class=\"wp-image-35497\" style=\"width: 20px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/IMG_4527.png\" alt=\"An enhanced cutout of the blue back arrow in the Safari browser.\"> in your browser afterwards to return to this post.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">See the complete uncondensed version \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/why-descartes-cannot-treat-objective-reality-as-a-universal-theory-of-thought-burman-common-notions-and-the-failure-of-the-strict-idea-model\/\">Why Objective Reality Cannot Be Descartes\u2019s Universal Theory Of Thought: Burman, Common Notions, And The Failure Of The Strict-Idea Model<\/a>\u201d and its companion piece \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/why-objective-reality-cannot-be-universal-in-descartess-theory-of-ideas-nothing-eternal-truths-sensations-and-fear-with-claude-opus-4-6\/\">Why Objective Reality Cannot Be Universal In Descartes\u2019s Theory Of Ideas: Nothing, Eternal Truths, Sensations, And Fear With Claude Opus 4.6<\/a>.\u201d]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Introduction by ChatGPT 5.5 Thinking<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This post defends a restricted thesis about Descartes\u2019s doctrine of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. It does&nbsp;<strong>not<\/strong>&nbsp;claim that <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> is empty, useless, or absent wherever thought is meaningful. It claims, more narrowly, that <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> cannot function as Descartes\u2019s universal theory of thought-content, intelligibility, or&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/iep.utm.edu\/intentio\/\">aboutness<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">Objective reality<\/a> belongs most securely to <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict ideas<\/a> in which something is internally represented as objectively contained in the idea and can be measured by the relevant ontological rank of what is represented.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The argument therefore distinguishes&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a><\/strong>&nbsp;from&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective being<\/a><\/strong>, distinguishes&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict ideas<\/a> of things<\/strong>&nbsp;from&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad-sense ideas<\/a> or thoughts<\/strong>, and, most importantly, distinguishes&nbsp;<strong>propositional or truth-content<\/strong>&nbsp;from the&nbsp;<strong>constituent ideas<\/strong>&nbsp;that may be used in thinking a proposition. Once these distinctions are in place,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1648.pdf\"><em>Conversation with Burman<\/em><\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1644part1.pdf\"><em>Principles of Philosophy<\/em>&nbsp;I.48\u201349<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/common-notion\/B38132266624F1938C3AD33873ED682D\">common notions<\/a>, the idea of <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nothing\">nothing<\/a>, and, on my reading,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/quality-sensible\/34262BB6D63557C646AE27150FBCC464\">secondary-quality sensations<\/a>, all exert pressure against universalizing readings of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The central conclusion is not that every disputed item demonstrably lacks <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. That would be too strong. The central conclusion is that Descartes\u2019s own texts block the easy inference from&nbsp;<strong>thinkability<\/strong>&nbsp;to&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a><\/strong>. The defender of universal <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> must therefore identify, case by case, the specific&nbsp;<em><a href=\"https:\/\/philsci-archive.pitt.edu\/3900\/1\/models_and_formats_of_representation.pdf\">representatum<\/a><\/em>&nbsp;allegedly contained objectively in the thought. In some cases\u2014especially <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/common-notion\/B38132266624F1938C3AD33873ED682D\">common notions<\/a> such as&nbsp;<em>ex nihilo, nihil fit<\/em> (\u201cFrom nothing, nothing comes\u201d)\u2014that specification is difficult to make stable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><mark><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">Objective reality<\/a> remains a powerful Cartesian doctrine, but it is not Descartes\u2019s universal account of every form of thinkable content.<\/strong><\/mark><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"1459\" class=\"wp-image-39163\" style=\"width: 1200px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/IMG_6988.gif\" alt=\"A colorized animated GIF of Ren\u00e9 Descartes looking out at the viewer and moving his eyes.\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Governing Thesis in One Sentence<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"50\" height=\"53\" class=\"wp-image-40936\" style=\"width: 50px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/IMG_8251-scaled.png\" alt=\"An enhanced photographic cutout of a pink sphere with a white, slim, moon-shaped curve is used as a bullet point.\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/IMG_8251-scaled.png 2402w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/IMG_8251-282x300.png 282w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/IMG_8251-961x1024.png 961w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/IMG_8251-141x150.png 141w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/IMG_8251-768x818.png 768w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/IMG_8251-1441x1536.png 1441w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/IMG_8251-1922x2048.png 1922w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 50px) 100vw, 50px\" \/>&nbsp;&#8220;<strong>Descartes&#8217;s doctrine of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> is not a universal theory of thought-content, but a restricted ontological measure: it applies where an idea internally represents something as objectively contained in it. Common notions, the idea of nothing, some intelligible-but-false judgments described below, and secondary-quality sensations together reveal a broader field of thinkable content that the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> apparatus does not, by itself, explain.&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">The Post\u2019s Dialectical Target<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This post is directed at interpretations that universalize either of two theses:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp; &nbsp; The&nbsp;<strong><mark>strong universal thesis<\/mark><\/strong>&nbsp;says that all Cartesian ideas contain <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp; &nbsp; The&nbsp;<strong><mark>weaker universal thesis<\/mark><\/strong>&nbsp;says that every Cartesian idea is internally representational in the strict sense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These theses are not identical. A commentator may deny universal <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> while still holding that all ideas are representational. The post keeps these targets apart.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The <strong>central objection<\/strong> is that both theses risk flattening Descartes\u2019s own taxonomy. Descartes recognizes strict ideas&nbsp;<em>tanquam rerum imagines<\/em> (\u201cas if an image of a thing\u201d), but he also recognizes <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad sense ideas<\/a> that include <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/common-notion\/B38132266624F1938C3AD33873ED682D\">common notions<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/eternal-truth\/73F9E6BBF9B656571513B62E74434656\">eternal truths<\/a>, the idea of <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nothing\">nothing<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/passions-of-the-soul\/3615320CB4A58B7F1FE363EAAA34869D\">passions of the soul<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/qualities-prim-sec\/#ReneDesc\">secondary-quality sensations<\/a>, acts of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dictionary.com\/browse\/affirm\">affirmation<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dictionary.com\/browse\/deny\">denial<\/a>, and other modes of thought. A theory that treats all of these as strict internally object-containing ideas with <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> <strong><em>has to explain how<\/em><\/strong> that uniform model fits Descartes\u2019s actual classifications.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The&nbsp;<a href=\"#TableOfCartesianCommentators\">Table of Cartesian Commentators<\/a>&nbsp;below therefore functions as part of the argument rather than as a decorative appendix. It displays how frequently commentators either identify ideahood with <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> or at least identify ideahood with internal representation. The later sections then test these assumptions against Descartes\u2019s own distinctions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Objective Reality and Objective Being: The Distinction Needed at the Start<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The argument requires a sharper distinction between <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><strong>objective being<\/strong><\/a> and <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a><\/strong> than Descartes&#8217;s own vocabulary always supplies. Descartes uses <em>esse objectivum<\/em> and <em>realitas objectiva<\/em> in close proximity in the Third Meditation and the First Replies, and he does not consistently mark a terminological cleavage between them (cf. <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/71\">AT VII 41\u201342<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/132\">AT VII 102\u2013103<\/a>). The distinction defended here is therefore reconstructive: it is anchored in what Descartes&#8217;s arguments require, not in two rigorously separated technical terms. Even where his vocabulary blurs, his argumentative practice insists on the difference.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><strong>Objective being<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;concerns <em>the way represented content exists in the intellect<\/em>: not formally, as the sun exists outside the mind, but objectively, as the sun exists in the idea of the sun. It marks the special intentional mode of being possessed by what is contained in an idea as represented. <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><strong>Objective reality<\/strong><\/a>, by contrast, concerns the <em>determinate represented content of the idea<\/em> together with <em>its ontological rank as represented<\/em>. Thus an idea of a mode, an idea of a finite substance, and an idea of an infinite substance differ in objective reality because what is represented in each case differs both in content and in represented ontological status.<br>Put differently: <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective being<\/a> answers the question how the represented item exists in the intellect; <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> answers the question what is represented and with what representational rank it is contained in the idea. The two notions are inseparable in standard cases of strict Cartesian representation, but they are not identical. <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">Objective being<\/a> names <em><strong>the way<\/strong><\/em> the <em>representatum<\/em> exists in the intellect; <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> <em><strong>measures the determinate representational content<\/strong><\/em> of that <em>representatum<\/em>, including whether it is represented as a mode, a finite substance, or an infinite substance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This distinction matters because a thought may be meaningful, thinkable, or present to consciousness without thereby containing a determinately rankable <em>representatum<\/em> in the strict objective-reality sense. A sensation, a passion, an awareness of nothing, or a common notion may be before the mind without functioning as a a <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict idea<\/a> that internally represents a thing or mode with objective reality. To treat every item before the mind as objective-reality-bearing would collapse Descartes&#8217;s distinction between <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad-sense idea<\/a> and a <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict representational idea<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Why the Distinction Is Not Eliminative of Ontological Kind<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The point is not that <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> excludes ontological kind. On the contrary, when an idea internally represents a mode, a finite substance, or an infinite substance, that represented ontological kind belongs to the idea&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. The point is rather that <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> is not identical with mere thinkability, mere mental presence, or mere <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective being<\/a> taken in abstraction. <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">Objective reality<\/a> measures already determinate represented content. It does not automatically attach to every mode of thought simply because that mode is present to consciousness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This also explains why <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> is indispensable to Descartes without being universal in scope. The doctrine does its decisive philosophical work in the causal-adequacy reasoning of the Third Meditation, where the rank of a represented content (mode, finite substance, infinite substance) constrains what could count as an adequate cause of the idea. That ranking apparatus is designed for ideas that enter the causal proof; mental episodes that do not enter that proof\u2014sensations, negations, axioms, common notions\u2014need not be assigned a rank at all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">The Proposition \/ Constituent Distinction<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This distinction should be made early because it prevents much of the confusion surrounding eternal truths and common notions. A proposition can be thinkable, meaningful, and even clearly and distinctly perceived without itself being one unified <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>-bearing&nbsp;<em>representatum<\/em>. At the same time, some of the constituent ideas used in thinking that proposition may themselves have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For example, the thought&nbsp;<em>figure is the limit of extension<\/em>&nbsp;may involve constituents such as figure and extension. Extension is a strong candidate for <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> because it is the principal attribute of body. But the proposition&nbsp;<em>figure is the limit of extension<\/em>, considered as a proposition, need not thereby be a further <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>-bearing object over and above its constituents. It may instead be an eternal truth or intellectual proposition grasped by the mind.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The same point applies even more forcefully to&nbsp;<em>ex nihilo, nihil fit<\/em>. The proposition is intelligible and truth-bearing, but its explicit constituents\u2014especially \u201cnothing\u201d\u2014do not supply obvious candidates for positive objectively real contents. If the defender of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> for common notions wishes to treat the proposition itself as objectively contained, the defender must explain what the contained&nbsp;<em>representatum<\/em>&nbsp;is: nothingness, impossibility, causal dependence, being as such, or the truth-proposition itself. None of these candidates is cost-free.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This proposition\/constituent distinction is crucial. It permits a restricted pro-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> claim for some constituent ideas while blocking an automatic pro-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> inference for the whole proposition as such.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Two Different Pressures Against Universalism<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Two distinct pressures undermine universal <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> readings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark>First<\/mark><\/strong>, secondary-quality sensations undermine the inference from <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad-sense ideahood<\/a> to <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> (on the anti-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> reading defended throughout the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/category\/objective-reality\/\">DTOI website<\/a>). A cold sensation can be a genuine Cartesian <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">idea in the broad sense<\/a> because it is immediately present to the mind as a mode of thought, while still lacking internally object-fixing <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. Such a sensation may externally represent as a lawfully connected sign of a bodily configuration, but it does not internally represent a positive quality of coldness as objectively contained in the idea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark>Second<\/mark><\/strong>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/common-notion\/B38132266624F1938C3AD33873ED682D\">common notions<\/a> pressure a different inference: the move from thinkability or clear intelligibility to strict idea-of-a-thing status. Descartes treats <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/common-notion\/B38132266624F1938C3AD33873ED682D\">common notions<\/a> as clearly and distinctly perceivable and indispensable to reasoning, yet&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1644part1.pdf\"><em>Principles of Philosophy<\/em>&nbsp;I.48\u201349<\/a> classifies them under eternal truths, and&nbsp;elsewhere, <a href=\"https:\/\/earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1648.pdf\"><em>Conversation with Burman<\/em><\/a>&nbsp;says that ideas of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/common-notion\/B38132266624F1938C3AD33873ED682D\">common notions<\/a> are not strictly ideas of real things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The argument is strongest when these two pressures are kept distinct. The sensory case challenges the universal move from&nbsp;<strong>idea<\/strong>&nbsp;to&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a><\/strong>. The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/common-notion\/B38132266624F1938C3AD33873ED682D\">common-notion<\/a> case challenges the universal move from&nbsp;<strong>thinkability<\/strong>&nbsp;to&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict idea<\/a> of a thing<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For extensive defense of the claim that secondary-quality sensations lack <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>, see the following DTOI posts:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/chatgpt-4-0-april-2023-version\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Convincing ChatGPT 4.0 (April 2023 version) that Cartesian secondary quality sensations (SQS) have no objectively real mental content<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/sensation\/proving-that-cold-sensations-do-not-have-any-objective-reality-to-bings-copilot-with-chatgpt-4\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Proving that cold sensations do not have any objective reality to Bing\u2019s Copilot with ChatGPT 4<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/sensation\/scholargpt-january-2025-asserts-independently-that-a-cold-sensation-lacks-objective-reality\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>ScholarGPT (January 2025) asserts independently that a cold sensation lacks objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/sensation\/chatgpt-4-5-february-2025-defends-material-false-sensations-lack-objectively-real-representational-content\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>ChatGPT 4.5 (February 2025) defends material false sensations lack objectively real representational content<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/sensation\/proving-sensations-are-ideas-with-no-objective-reality-to-scholargpt\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Proving sensations are ideas with no objective reality to ScholarGPT<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"1444\" class=\"wp-image-43009\" style=\"width: 1200px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747.png\" alt=\"The image shows an oval-framed painted portrait of Ren\u00e9 Descartes, depicted with shoulder-length dark hair, a mustache and small goatee, a black embroidered coat, and a white lace collar. Around the frame is a Latin inscription naming him and noting the year 1646, set into a carved stone architectural surround and services as an entertaining divider.\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747.png 1888w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747-249x300.png 249w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747-851x1024.png 851w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747-125x150.png 125w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747-768x924.png 768w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747-1276x1536.png 1276w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747-1702x2048.png 1702w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"TableOfCartesianCommentators\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Cartesian Commentators on the Status of Ideas<\/mark><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The following table distinguishes commentators who endorse the <strong>strong universal thesis<\/strong> that all ideas contain objectively real representational content from those who defend only the <strong>weaker universal representational thesis<\/strong> that all ideas are representational. The point is not that each commentator says exactly the same thing. The point is that each, in a different way, helps illustrate the pressure to assimilate Cartesian thought to a uniform internal-representational model.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Abbreviations:<\/strong>&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a><\/strong>&nbsp;= <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>;&nbsp;<strong>SQ<\/strong>&nbsp;= secondary quality;&nbsp;<strong>MF<\/strong>&nbsp;= materially false idea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><thead><tr><th class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\"><span style=\"font-size: 22px;\">Cartesian Commentator<\/span><\/mark><\/th><th><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\"><span style=\"font-size: 22px;\">Accepts or <\/span><\/mark><span style=\"font-size: 22px;\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Rejects<\/mark><\/span>&nbsp;<mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\"><span style=\"font-size: 22px;\"> Universal Thesis<\/span><\/mark><\/th><th><br><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\"><span style=\"font-size: 22px;\">Supporting \u201cQuotations\u201d &amp; [Objections]<\/span><\/mark><\/th><\/tr><\/thead><tbody><tr><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><br><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/hpi.uq.edu.au\/profile\/433\/deborah-brown\"><span style=\"color:blue\"> <u>Deborah J<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>.&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.encyclopedia.com\/arts\/educational-magazines\/brown-deborah-j-1963\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Brown<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.edx.org\/bio\/deborah-brown\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_0565.png 220w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_0565-150x150.png 150w\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_0565.png\" alt=\"An enhanced color photographic headshot cutout of a smiling Deborah J. Brown with her head tilted to her right and wearing a black shirt used to visually identify her.\"><\/a><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.edx.org\/bio\/deborah-brown\"><\/a><\/td><td><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Accepts<\/mark> the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">strong universal thesis<\/mark><\/strong>. <br><br>Brown explicitly extends <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> to materially false ideas<\/strong>. (<strong>DJB1\u20132<\/strong>)<\/td><td><br>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/eclass.uoa.gr\/modules\/document\/file.php\/PHS414\/%5BJanet_Broughton%2C_John_Carriero%5D_A_Companion_to_Descartes.pdf\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Descartes on True and False Ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d In <em><a href=\"https:\/\/eclass.uoa.gr\/modules\/document\/file.php\/PHS414\/%5BJanet_Broughton%2C_John_Carriero%5D_A_Companion_to_Descartes.pdf\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>A Companion to Descartes<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>, edited by &nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.berkeley.edu\/people\/detail\/9\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Janet<\/u><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Janet_Broughton\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Broughton<\/u><\/span><\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/John%20Carriero\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>John<\/u><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.ucla.edu\/person\/john-carriero\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Carriero<\/u><\/span><\/a>, 196\u2013215. Malden, MA: Blackwell Publishing, 2008. <br><br>(<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-black-color\">DJB1<\/mark><\/strong>) \u201c. . . . Descartes\u2019s <strong>objective existence<\/strong> theory of ideas and the notion of material falsity. The <strong>former<\/strong> seems to entail that <strong><em>for an idea to be of x, x must have (<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective<\/u><\/span><\/a>) being<\/em><\/strong>, . . . .\u201d (205)<br><br>[<mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\"><strong>False<\/strong><\/mark>. A sensation can be <strong>of<\/strong> cold or <strong>of<\/strong> pain in the broad Cartesian sense without containing any <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br>(<strong>DJB2<\/strong>) \u201cMaterially false ideas, <strong><em>like all ideas<\/em>, have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>.\u201d (207)<br><br>[<mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\"><strong>False<\/strong><\/mark>. As argued below, materially false secondary-quality sensations lack <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br><\/td><\/tr><tr><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><br><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/John%20Carriero\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>John<\/u><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.ucla.edu\/person\/john-carriero\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Carriero<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.berkeley.edu\/people\/detail\/619\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/SIX_95CE9BA0-A331-4D8E-A913-382E9E76EC4C.png 320w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/SIX_95CE9BA0-A331-4D8E-A913-382E9E76EC4C-300x286.png 300w\" width=\"175\" height=\"167\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/SIX_95CE9BA0-A331-4D8E-A913-382E9E76EC4C.png\" alt=\"A color photographic headshot of John Carriero wearing a light brown jacket over a blue shirt used for identifying him.\"><\/a><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.berkeley.edu\/people\/detail\/619\"><\/a><\/td><td><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Accepts<\/mark> the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">strong universal thesis<\/mark><\/strong>.<br><br>Carriero treats <strong>all ideas<\/strong> as making reality available to mind and <strong>as containing <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective being<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>. (<strong>JC1<\/strong>)\u2013(<strong>JC5<\/strong>)<\/td><td><br><em><a href=\"https:\/\/dokumen.pub\/between-two-worlds-a-reading-of-descartess-meditations-course-booknbsped-9781400833191.html\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Between Two Worlds: A Reading of Descartes\u2019s Meditations<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 2009.<br><br>(<strong>JC1<\/strong>) \u201cI believe that this overtone continues with Descartes, so that for him, too, <strong>an idea is some form or structure\u2014some \u201creality\u201d\u2014<em>existing objectively in the mind<\/em><\/strong> . . . . However, I think it is the same story with <strong>sensory ideas<\/strong>. They, too, involve the existence of structure (presumably some corporeal configuration) in the mind. What Descartes says about sensory ideas is that the structure (the \u201creality\u201d) that is <strong>found <em>objectively<\/em> in them<\/strong> is obscure and confused.\u201d (20\u201321)<br><br>[<mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\"><strong>False<\/strong><\/mark>. A first-order sensation has formally real phenomenal structure, such as coolness or redness, without thereby containing <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br>(<strong>JC2<\/strong>) \u201c. . . <strong>all ideas<\/strong>\u2014whether purely intellectual (such as my idea of myself or of God) or imaginative (such as my idea of a chimera or my visualization of a triangle) or sensory (such as my idea of greenness)\u2014<strong>exhibit or present reality to the mind<\/strong>: the <strong>reality contained in the thing<\/strong> that is being thought of <strong>exists objectively in the idea<\/strong>.\u201d (158)<br><br>[<mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\"><strong>False<\/strong><\/mark>. A cold sensation presents phenomenal coolness to the mind, but it does not internally represent coolness (or it would not feel chilly) and thus does not contain <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br>(<strong>JC3<\/strong>) \u201cHe says there [Third Meditation] that, although <strong>all ideas, including sensory ideas, \u201care as it were of things\u201d<\/strong> (III.\u00b619; 7:44; 2:30), sensory ideas present what they present in a way that leaves open whether what is being presented is a reality or an absence of reality.\u201d (163\u201364)<br><br>[<mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\"><strong>False<\/strong><\/mark>. A cold sensation presents positive phenomenal coolness, not an absence of reality.]<br><br>(<strong>JC4<\/strong>) \u201cOn Descartes\u2019s own view of <strong>sensory perception<\/strong>, the microphysical texture <strong><em>as it exists objectively (and obscurely and confusedly) in a sensory idea<\/em><\/strong> is not similar to\u2014is not a replica of\u2014the microphysical texture as it exists in the body.\u201d (405)<br><br>[<mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\"><strong>False<\/strong><\/mark>. When a sensation leaves one unable to tell whether it presents a real quality, a privation, or neither, that indeterminacy is better taken to show that the sensation contains no internally object-fixing <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br>(<strong>JC5<\/strong>) \u201cI think <strong><em>all<\/em><\/strong> <strong>sensory ideas<\/strong>, including <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">cold<\/mark><\/strong> in the imagined case, involve the confused <strong>importation of corporeal structure<\/strong> from the world, so even if cold is an absence or privation, it <strong>involves corporeal structure<\/strong>.\u201d (409) [Carriero equivocates on \u201cinvolves\u201d: a sensation may \u2018involve\u2019 a causal relation to corporeal structure without containing that structure as <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br><\/td><\/tr><tr><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><br><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/45222989\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Vere<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Vere_Chappell\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Chappell<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.legacy.com\/us\/obituaries\/gazettenet\/name\/vere-chappell-obituary?id=9706679\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"125\" height=\"172\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/IMG_2246.png 233w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/IMG_2246-218x300.png 218w\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/IMG_2246.png\" alt=\"A reversed enhanced colorize blended  photographic cutout of a glasses adorned smiling Vere Chappell wearing a light blue shirt under a dark blue suit coat with a blue and gold striped tie used for visually identifying him.\"><\/a><br><\/td><td><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Accepts<\/mark> <strong><em>both<\/em><\/strong> the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">strong universal thesis<\/mark><\/strong> (<strong>VC2<\/strong>) and the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">weaker universal representational thesis<\/mark><\/strong> in a universal two-aspect model: <strong>every material idea stands in a necessary representational relation to an idea with <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a>.<\/strong> (<strong>VC0<\/strong>) (<strong>VC1<\/strong>)<\/td><td><br>\u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/dokumen.pub\/essays-on-descartes-meditations-reprint-2019nbsped-9780520907836.html\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>The Theory of Ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>.\u201d In <em><a href=\"https:\/\/dokumen.pub\/essays-on-descartes-meditations-reprint-2019nbsped-9780520907836-t-1061627.html\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Essays in Descartes\u2019 Meditations<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>, edited by &nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/amelierorty.blogspot.com\/2008\/03\/amelie-oksenberg-rorty.html\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Am\u00e9lie Oksenberg<\/u><\/span><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Am%C3%A9lie_Rorty\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Rorty<\/u><\/span><\/a>, 177\u201398. Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1986.<br><br>(<strong>VC0<\/strong>) \u201cFrom now on I shall abbreviate \u2018idea in the material sense\u2019 and \u2018idea in the objective sense\u2019 to \u2018idea<sub>m<\/sub>\u2019 and \u2018idea<sub>o<\/sub>,\u2019 respectively. Ideas<sub>m<\/sub> and ideas<sub>o<\/sub>, furthermore, are related, in that <strong>the latter are things represented by the former<\/strong>.\u201d (178)<br><br>[The objective sense is the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> content of an idea, not an object that a material idea represents as a second representation; moreover, many Cartesian mental modes exist without <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br>(<strong>VC1<\/strong>) \u201c<strong>Ideas<sub>m<\/sub> and ideas<sub>o<\/sub><\/strong>, furthermore, are related in that the <strong>latter are things represented by the former<\/strong>. . . . Later on we shall see that the relation is <em>necessary<\/em> on the other side also, and that <strong>every idea<sub>m<\/sub> represents an idea<sub>o<\/sub><\/strong>. Descartes\u2019 position, indeed, is that there is, <strong>for every idea<sub>m<\/sub>, exactly one idea<sub>o<\/sub> that it represents, and for every idea<sub>o<\/sub>, exactly one idea<sub>m<\/sub> that represents it.<\/strong>\u201d (178)<br><br>[If every idea<sub>m<\/sub> represented an idea<sub>o<\/sub>, then the idea of a lion would represent not a lion but a representation of a lion; moreover, some mental modes have no <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> at all.]<br><br>(<strong>VC2<\/strong>) \u201cIt is that these are <strong>not distinct entities<\/strong> at all\u2014not one individual thing and then a second, different one\u2014but are rather one thing on the one hand, and an aspect or component of <strong>that same thing<\/strong> on the other. The <strong>idea<sub>m<\/sub> and the idea<sub>o<\/sub><\/strong> <strong>only differ from one another<\/strong>, to use Descartes\u2019 own expression, <strong>by a \u2018distinction of reason<\/strong>.\u2019\u201d (179)<br><br>[Chappell wrongly universalizes a relation that Descartes can sustain only for ideas taken strictly as if \u201cimages of things,\u201d since many thoughts that Descartes still calls ideas\u2014such as sensations of pain or cold, common notions, and the idea of nothing\u2014<strong>exist in the mind as modes of thought<\/strong> <em>without<\/em> thereby containing any object existing objectively in the intellect.]<br><br><\/td><\/tr><tr><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><br><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/philpeople.org\/profiles\/david-cunning\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>David<\/u><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.uiowa.edu\/people\/david-cunning\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Cunning<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong><br><br><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.uiowa.edu\/people\/david-cunning\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.uiowa.edu\/people\/david-cunning\"><\/a><\/strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"169\" class=\"wp-image-6182\" style=\"width: 150px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image.png\" alt=\"A photographic cutout of David Cunning wearing a rounded neck, bluish-green t-shirt is used for visual identification.\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image.png 284w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-266x300.png 266w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><br><\/td><td><br><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Rejects<\/mark><\/strong> <strong><em>both<\/em><\/strong> the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">strong universal thesis<\/mark><\/strong>: <strong>every idea<\/strong> has <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>formal reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective being<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong> (and exhibits an internal object). (<strong>DC1\u20132<\/strong>)<br><br>and the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">weaker universal representational thesis<\/mark><\/strong>: all ideas are <strong>intrinsically representational<\/strong>. (<strong>DC3\u20134<\/strong>)<br><br><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Accepts<\/mark> the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">strong universal thesis<\/mark><\/strong> for <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>strict ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong> [<em>tanquam rerum imagines<\/em>], denying that sensations themselves are strict ideas. (<strong>DC3<\/strong>)<br><br><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Problematically<\/mark>,  Cunning underemphasizes sensations as <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>broad sense ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a> and denies that material falsity resides in the sensations themselves. <br>(<strong>DC2, 3 &amp; 5<\/strong>)<br><\/td><td><br>\u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/docslib.org\/doc\/382874\/an-anthology-of-philosophical-studies\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Descartes on Sensations and Ideas of Sensations<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>.\u201d In <em><a href=\"https:\/\/docslib.org\/doc\/382874\/an-anthology-of-philosophical-studies\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>An Anthology of Philosophical Studies<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>, 17\u201332. Athens: Atiner Publishing, 2006.<br><br>(<strong>DC1<\/strong>) \u201cFor Descartes, <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> is something that is internal to an idea. [ . . . . ] However, it appears to be just a brute phenomenological fact that when we introspect and consider (for example) a <strong>sensation of coldness<\/strong>, there is <strong>nothing more to what we are considering than the quale itself<\/strong>. In particular, an examination of the mere sensation of coldness does not provide us with any information about the bodies that occasion it. [. . .] there is good philosophical reason for thinking that <strong><em>sensations do not have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em><\/strong>.\u201d (27) [<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">True<\/mark><\/strong>.]<br><br>(<strong>DC2<\/strong>) \u201cA Cartesian sensation is a mode of mind but not an idea. If it is representational, it is not representational in virtue of having <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> but in virtue of something else.\u201d<br>(18)<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">False<\/mark><\/strong>. Secondary-quality sensations count as broad-sense <strong>ideas<\/strong> for Descartes, even though they do not contain <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br><strong>Rejection of the weaker universal representational thesis (\u201call ideas are intrinsically representational\u201d) \u2014 (DC5)<\/strong><br><br>(<strong>DC3<\/strong>) \u201cAnother is that ideas are representational. Indeed, Descartes says that although something can be dubbed a \u2018thought\u2019 in a loose sense so long as it is a mode of mind, the term \u2018idea\u2019 is to be reserved for modes of mind that are of objects.\u201d (23) (Third Meditation: <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/67\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>AT VII: 37<\/u><\/span><\/a>)<br><br>[Cunning should <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">restrict this claim to <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>strict ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/mark><\/strong>, because Descartes continues to call broad-sense non-representational modes \u2018ideas\u2019 even when they lack strict <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a>-representational content.]<br><br>(<strong>DC4<\/strong>) \u201cSensations are <em>qualia<\/em> that we perceive as a result of the impact of bodies on our senses.\u201d (20)<br><br>[Internal sensations such as hunger need not arise from the impact of external bodies on the senses.]<br><br>Cunning accepts the strong thesis (<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> \/ internal object) exclusively for <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>strict-sense ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a> while repeatedly denying that raw sensations qualify as such.<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">True<\/mark><\/strong>.]<br><br><strong>Underemphasis of sensations as broad-sense ideas and denial that material falsity resides in the sensations themselves<\/strong><br><br>(<strong>DC5<\/strong>) \u201cA false <em>idea of a sensation<\/em> [not a sensation], on the other hand, might misrepresent that sensation as something other than a mode of mind. [. . .] Descartes thus says that a false idea of a sensation \u2018does have something positive as its underlying subject, namely the actual sensation involved.\u2019\u201d (18) (<em><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20081220142538\/http:\/\/www.freewebs.com\/dqsdnlj\/d.html\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Fourth Replies<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>: <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/264\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>AT VII: 234<\/u><\/span><\/a>)<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Cunning misreads the passage here<\/mark><\/strong>: Descartes attributes the positive underlying subject to the <strong>sensation itself<\/strong>, not to a higher-order idea of that sensation.<br><br>Cunning consistently locates material falsity in the (higher-order) <em>idea of the sensation<\/em>, not in the sensation\/qualia itself. He underemphasizes acknowledgment of sensations as broad-sense ideas (the \u201cform of any given thought\u201d); he treats them strictly as non-ideas\/qualia. SQ-sensations are <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>broad sense ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a> and are themselves materially false <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">prior to any formal judgment<\/mark><\/strong>. For a defense, see my post \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/material-falsity\/39363\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>What Makes An Idea Materially False In Descartes\u2019s Theory Of Ideas?: Why Mere Error-Causation Is Insufficient, Why The Three Main Cases Form An Analogical Unity, And Why Hoffman Mislocates The Relevant Non-Thing With ChatGPT 5.4 Thinking<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d]<br><br><\/td><\/tr><tr><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><br><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/yale.academia.edu\/MichaelDellaRocca\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Michael<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/philpeople.org\/profiles\/michael-della-rocca\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Della Rocca<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong><br><br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"177\" class=\"wp-image-12619\" style=\"width: 150px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/IMG_5375.png\" alt=\"A reversed, enhanced color photographic cutout of Michael Della Rocca wearing glasses and a thinly striped shirt under a brown sweater is used for visual identification.\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/IMG_5375.png 543w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/IMG_5375-255x300.png 255w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/IMG_5375-127x150.png 127w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><br><\/td><td><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Accepts<\/mark> the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">weaker universal representational thesis<\/mark><\/strong>.<br><br>Della Rocca says all ideas are representations, but in the verified passage he does not separately state the stronger universal-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> thesis. <strong>(MDR1)<\/strong><br><br>See <a href=\"#TableDellaRocca\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>the table below<\/u><\/span><\/a> for an extensive critique.<br><\/td><td><br>\u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/ndl.ethernet.edu.et\/bitstream\/123456789\/8564\/1\/28.pdf.pdf\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Judgment and Will<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>.\u201d In <a href=\"https:\/\/ndl.ethernet.edu.et\/bitstream\/123456789\/8564\/1\/28.pdf.pdf\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>The Blackwell Guide to Descartes\u2019 <em>Meditations<\/em><\/u><\/span><\/a>, edited by <a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/Stephen%20Gaukroger\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Stephen<\/u><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Stephen_Gaukroger#Life\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Gaukroger<\/u><\/span><\/a>, 142\u201359. Malden, MA: Blackwell Publishing, 2006.<br><br>(<strong>MDR1<\/strong>) \u201cAnd, for Descartes, <strong>all ideas are representations<\/strong>; they are of things or at least they purport to be of things.\u201d (\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/ndl.ethernet.edu.et\/bitstream\/123456789\/8564\/1\/28.pdf.pdf\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Judgment and Will<\/u><\/span><\/a>,\u201d 146)<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">A cold sensation can be <em>of<\/em> phenomenal coolness <\/mark><\/strong>in the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>broad sense<\/u><\/span><\/a> without internally representing anything via <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>, as defended below and throughout the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>DTOI website<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><\/td><\/tr><tr><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><br><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/philpeople.org\/profiles\/claudia-lorena-garcia\/publications?app=530\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Claudia<\/u><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.filosoficas.unam.mx\/sitio\/claudia-garcia\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Lorena<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.filosoficas.unam.mx\/~clga\/home.html\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Garc\u00eda<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/_YkzXKuH-H4\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"200\" height=\"188\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/IMG_5635.png 2068w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/IMG_5635-300x283.png 300w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/IMG_5635-1024x965.png 1024w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/IMG_5635-150x141.png 150w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/IMG_5635-768x723.png 768w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/IMG_5635-1536x1447.png 1536w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/IMG_5635-2048x1929.png 2048w\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/IMG_5635.png\" alt=\"An enhanced, colorized, photographic headshot cutout of a closed-mouthed Claudia-Lorena Garcia with her head turned slightly to her left, wearing glasses, a blue denim shirt, and necklaces, is used for visual identification.\"><\/a><br><\/td><td><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Rejects<\/mark><\/strong> the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">strong universal thesis<\/mark><\/strong>.<br><br>Garc\u00eda argues that materially false sensory ideas can represent non-things and lack <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>. (<strong>CLG5<\/strong>)<br><br><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Accepts<\/mark> the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">weaker universal representational thesis<\/mark><\/strong>. (<strong>CLG1\u20134<\/strong>)<br><\/td><td><br>\u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.filosoficas.unam.mx\/~clga\/docs\/MENRLAHP.pdf\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Descartes: Ideas and the Mark of the Mental<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>.\u201d <em><a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/asearch.pl?pub=521486\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>History of Philosophy &amp; Logical Analysis<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>&nbsp;3, no. 1 (2000): 21\u201353.<br><br>(<strong>CLG1<\/strong>) \u201cMoreover, concerning obscure and confused ideas\u2014some of which are false\u2014one often cannot begin to tell <strong>what they represent<\/strong>.\u201d (3)<br><br>[Here Garc\u00eda <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">simply assumes<\/mark><\/strong> that obscure and confused ideas internally represent something, but that assumption is precisely what my anti-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> reading denies.]<br><br>(<strong>CLG2<\/strong>) \u201cIdeas are those of our thoughts which are as it were of things; <strong>each of them appears to us to represent some thing, some <em>res<\/em><\/strong>.\u201d (4)<br><br>[The common notion or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/eternal-truth\/73F9E6BBF9B656571513B62E74434656\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>eternal truth<\/u><\/span><\/a> <em>ex nihilo, nihil fit<\/em> <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">neither appears as a thing nor represents a thing<\/mark><\/strong>.]<br><br>(<strong>CLG3<\/strong>) \u201cNote that, by saying that ideas can be materially false, Descartes embraces the view that it is possible for an idea to misrepresent <strong>what it represents<\/strong>.\u201d (10)<br><br>[Descartes <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">need not treat material falsity as a misrepresentation<\/mark><\/strong> of represented content, because a cold sensation does not internally misrepresent anything and contains no <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>. For a defense, see \u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/material-falsity\/proving-god-is-not-a-deceiver-because-sensations-lack-objectively-real-contents-to-scholargpt-v2-october-2023\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Proving God Is Not A Deceiver Because Sensations Lack Objectively Real Contents To ScholarGPT V2 (October 2023)<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u2019]<br><br>(<strong>CLG4<\/strong>) \u201cI must emphasize that the reason why an idea is materially false, in my interpretation, is <strong>not that it fails to represent<\/strong> . . . .\u201d (20)<br><br>[If a materially false idea lacks <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>, <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Garc\u00eda still owes an argument<\/mark><\/strong> for <em>why<\/em> immediate phenomenal presentation already counts as internal representation rather than mere phenomenal presence.]<br><br>(<strong>CLG5<\/strong>) \u201cNow, I disagree with Hoffman on this second point. I think that there are sufficient reasons\u2014both of textual adequacy and of overall interpretive coherence\u2014to think that Descartes is committed to the view that sensory ideas, not only can be, but also are materially false: that they <strong>represent non-things and <em>lack <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em><\/strong>.\u201d (20)<br><br>[If a materially false sensory idea lacks <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>, <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Garc\u00eda must explain how it internally represents a non-thing at all<\/mark><\/strong>. If phenomenal coolness constitutes the sensation\u2019s immediate content, then that content is <strong>a real mode of mind<\/strong>, not an impossible pseudo-item. So material falsity cannot consist in presenting something that \u2018cannot exist anywhere.\u2019]<br><br><\/td><\/tr><tr><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><br><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.colorado.edu\/philosophy\/sites\/default\/files\/attached-files\/cv_kaufman.pdf\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Dan<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/Dan%20Kaufman\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Kaufman<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong><br><br>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailycamera.com\/2015\/03\/02\/dan-kaufman-philosophy-prof-banished-from-campus-last-year-sues-cu-boulder\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"140\" height=\"189\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/IMG_1861.png 237w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/IMG_1861-222x300.png 222w\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/IMG_1861.png\" alt=\"An enhanced color headshot of an unsmiling Dan Kaufman wearing a red shirt with tight white stripes used for identifying him.\"><\/a><br>&nbsp;<br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailycamera.com\/2015\/03\/02\/dan-kaufman-philosophy-prof-banished-from-campus-last-year-sues-cu-boulder\/\"><\/a><\/td><td><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Accepts<\/mark> the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">strong universal thesis<\/mark><\/strong>.<br><br>Kaufman argues that Descartes is committed to the claim that all ideas have some degree of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>. (<strong>DK1\u20132<\/strong>)<\/td><td><br>\u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/kaufmania2525.weebly.com\/uploads\/5\/3\/2\/5\/53254587\/kaufman_material_falsity.pdf\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Descartes on the Objective Reality of Materially False Ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>.\u201d <em><a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/asearch.pl?pub=747\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Pacific Philosophical Quarterly<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>&nbsp;81, no. 4 (2000): 385\u2013408.<br><br>(<strong>DK1<\/strong>) \u201c . . . Descartes holds that <strong>ideas in the material sense<\/strong> have <strong><em>ideas in the objective sense as their content<\/em><\/strong>.\u201d (386) <br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">False<\/mark><\/strong>. Not all ideas have ideas in the objective sense as their content: secondary-quality sensations, the idea of nothing, and many eternal truths do not, as argued below.]<br><br>(<strong>DK2<\/strong>) \u201cI have stated earlier that Descartes thinks that <strong>all ideas have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective being<\/u><\/span><\/a>\/existence<\/strong>. But Descartes is also committed to the fact that <strong>all ideas have some degree of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>.\u201d (395).<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">False<\/mark><\/strong>. Zero degrees of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> do not count as some degree, and the idea of nothing has zero <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> because nothing has zero <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>formal reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br><\/td><\/tr><tr><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><br><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/714e4411-e80d-40da-9ac0-7d90e1d26dce.filesusr.com\/ugd\/4ee4bc_d1226add7c3640bab41d87b484723073.pdf\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Steven<\/u><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Steven_Nadler\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Nadler<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jewishbookcouncil.org\/steven-nadler\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"175\" height=\"175\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_0732.png 600w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_0732-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_0732-150x150.png 150w\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/IMG_0732.png\" alt=\"A reversed enhanced color photographic cutout of a smiling Steven Nadler wearing glasses and a black colored shirt with one white button showing under a black sweater used to visually identify him.\"><\/a><br><\/td><td><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Accepts<\/mark> <strong><em>both<\/em><\/strong> the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">strong universal thesis<\/mark><\/strong> (<strong>SN1\u20132<\/strong>) and the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">weaker universal representational thesis<\/mark><\/strong>. (<strong>SN3<\/strong>) <br><br>Nadler treats <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> and representational content as essential to every idea.<\/td><td><br>\u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/ndl.ethernet.edu.et\/bitstream\/123456789\/8564\/1\/28.pdf.pdf\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>The Doctrine of Ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>.\u201d In <a href=\"https:\/\/ndl.ethernet.edu.et\/bitstream\/123456789\/8564\/1\/28.pdf.pdf\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>The Blackwell Guide to Descartes\u2019 <em>Meditations<\/em><\/u><\/span><\/a>, edited by &nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/Stephen%20Gaukroger\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Stephen<\/u><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Stephen_Gaukroger#Life\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Gaukroger<\/u><\/span><\/a>, 86\u2013103. Malden, MA: Blackwell Publishing, 2006.<br><br>(<strong>SN1<\/strong>) \u201cWe can say, in fact, that <strong>for Descartes <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> is a defining feature of the mind\u2019s ideas<\/strong>: \u2018Some of my thoughts are as it were images of things, and it is only in these cases that the term \u201cidea\u201d is strictly appropriate.\u2019 It is <strong>essential to an idea that it has a representational content that it displays to the mind<\/strong>. \u2018The objective mode of being belongs to ideas by their very nature.\u2019 (Meditation III, AT VI: 42)\u201d (92)<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Nadler overgeneralizes here<\/mark><\/strong>. A mind can apprehend content without thereby apprehending internally representational <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> content, and pain provides an obvious case.]<br><br>(<strong>SN2<\/strong>) \u201c<strong>This content of an idea<\/strong>, which <strong><em>allows us to discriminate one idea from another by its object<\/em><\/strong>, is what Descartes is referring to when he <strong>speaks of an idea\u2019s \u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u2019 <\/strong>It is what the idea represents (<strong><em>or, better, presents<\/em><\/strong>) to the mind. The <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> of an idea is what makes the idea \u2018like a picture or image\u2019 and <strong>allows it to make something<\/strong> (e.g., the sun, in the case of the idea of the sun) <strong>immediately present to the mind<\/strong>. An <strong>idea\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> gives the idea what philosophers have called \u2018intentionality.\u2019 It makes an idea the idea of something<\/strong>.\u201d (91\u201392)<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">False<\/mark><\/strong>. Formal differences among mental modes can be discriminating content without <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>: sharp pain differs from dull pain even though neither contains <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br><strong>Supporting the weaker thesis (all ideas are (internally) representational)<\/strong><br><br>(Nadler\u2019s interpretive claim that extends representational content universally via the \u201ccore\u201d idea):<br><br>(<strong>SN3<\/strong>) \u201cAt the <strong>core of every idea in the broad sense<\/strong> is <strong>an idea in the strict sense<\/strong>, <strong><em>giving it a specific content or referent<\/em><\/strong>.\u201d (87)<br><br>[What internally representational <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> referent does a cold sensation contain? It cannot be phenomenal coolness itself, because the sensation presents that coolness as a formally real felt mode, not as an <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a> representation of coolness.]<br><br>(Nadler on the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>strict\/narrow sense<\/u><\/span><\/a> as inherently representational, which the \u201ccore\u201d claim then universalizes):<br><br>(<strong>SN4<\/strong>) \u201cIn the <strong>narrow sense \u2013 \u2018idea\u2019 as species<\/strong> \u2013 the word <strong>refers only to those mental items that are \u2018as it were images of things [tanquam rerum imagines]\u2019 or representational states<\/strong>. . . . Strictly speaking, however, ideas (in the narrow sense) are those states of consciousness that are image-like appearances. Ideas (in the narrow sense) are all those visions, thoughts, feelings and other imagines that stand before the mind\u2019s eye in consciousness and that are the objects of the mind\u2019s active attitudes . . . .\u201d (88)<br><br>[Pain can stand before the mind as the object of awareness without thereby qualifying as a narrow idea with <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br>(<strong>SN5<\/strong>) \u201cFor <strong>something to have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective being<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>. . . . means that the <strong>thing exists<\/strong> in some mind insofar as it is <strong>being thought about by that mind<\/strong>. It is a mode of being in the understanding. . . . <strong>as the intentional object that the understanding grasps<\/strong>. In a word, <strong><em>something is in the mind \u2018objectively\u2019 when it is thought about, understood, or perceived<\/em><\/strong>.\u201d (92)<br><br>[A mind can <strong><em>perceive<\/em><\/strong> pain immediately without containing pain objectively as an intentional object.]<br><br>(<strong>SN6<\/strong>) \u201cFor the most part, we can distinguish two senses of \u2018idea\u2019 for Descartes: a <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>broad sense<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong> and a <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>strict sense<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>. In the broad meaning of \u2018idea\u2019\u2014\u2018idea\u2019 as genus\u2014the word refers to any mental item, <em><strong>any state of the mind<\/strong><\/em>, whether it be an image, an affect, or a volitional act. Ideas in this general sense are <strong>states of consciousness<\/strong>, and these come in a great variety: <strong>perceptions<\/strong>, imaginings, thoughts, desires, <strong>feelings<\/strong>, willings, doubtings, and so on.\u201d (87)<br><br>[Therefore, if \u2018perceptions\u2019 include SQ-sensations, then they qualify as <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>broad sense ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a>, while Nadler claims they are narrow.]<br><br>(<strong>SN7<\/strong>) \u201cIn the narrow sense\u2014\u2018idea\u2019 as species\u2014the word refers only to those mental items that are \u2018as it were images of things [<em>tanquam rerum imagines<\/em>]\u2019 or representational states. These include sense perceptions of physical things, pure intellectual thoughts (e.g., of mathematical figures), imaginings (e.g., of unicorns), dreams, and <strong>sensations and feelings (pain, pleasure)<\/strong>. Both the <strong>sensory appearance<\/strong> of the sun as a small, yellow, warm disc and the <strong>conceptual understanding<\/strong> of the sun as an enormous body of gas are <strong><em>equally ideas in the narrow sense<\/em><\/strong>.\u201d (87)<br><br>[Nadler recognizes Descartes\u2019s broad\/strict distinction, then misclassifies <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u><em>broad<\/em> sense<\/u><\/span><\/a> sensations (sensory appearances) as <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u><em>narrow<\/em>\/<em>strict<\/em> ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br>(<strong>SN8<\/strong>) \u201cIn sum, then, we can say that ideas <strong>generally speaking<\/strong> are the <strong>states of consciousness<\/strong> of which the mind is <strong><em>immediately aware<\/em><\/strong>.\u201d (88)<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">True<\/mark><\/strong>. Nadler recognizes that acts of awareness are <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>broad sense ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a> for Descartes, so sensory awareness, i.e., a mind\u2019s <strong>experienced sensations<\/strong> are guaranteed to qualify as <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u><strong>broad sense<\/strong> ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a>.] <br><br>(<strong>SN9<\/strong>) \u201cThis, in fact, is precisely how Descartes defines \u2018thought\u2019 in the <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1644part1.pdf\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Principles of Philosophy<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em>: \u2018By the term \u201cthought,\u201d I understand everything which we are aware of as happening within us, in so far as we have awareness of it\u2019 (<em>Principles<\/em>: I.9). An \u2018idea,\u2019 correlatively, is what is apprehended by the mind when one is conscious of the thought: \u2018Idea: I understand this term to mean the form of any given thought, immediate perception of which makes me aware of the thought.\u2019 (<em>Second Replies<\/em>: <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/190\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>AT VII 160<\/u><\/span><\/a>) (88)<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">True<\/mark><\/strong>. Because the mind immediately apprehends secondary-quality sensations and eternal truths, both qualify as ideas in the broad sense.]<br><br><\/td><\/tr><tr><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><br><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/philarchive.org\/s\/Lawrence%20Nolan\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Lawrence<\/u><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books\/about\/Primary_and_Secondary_Qualities.html?id=_cIkTLLkxOgC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=kp_read_button&amp;hl=en&amp;newbks=1&amp;newbks_redir=0&amp;gboemv=1#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Nolan<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/cla.csulb.edu\/departments\/philosophy\/faculty\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"176\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/IMG_4010.png 273w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/IMG_4010-256x300.png 256w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/IMG_4010-128x150.png 128w\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/IMG_4010.png\" alt=\"A reversed enhanced colorized photographic headshot cutout of Lawrence Nolan wearing a blue shirt is used for visual identification.\"><\/a><br><\/td><td><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Accepts<\/mark> <strong><em>both<\/em><\/strong> the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">strong universal thesis<\/mark><\/strong>:<br><strong>every idea<\/strong> has <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>formal reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective being<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong> (and exhibits an internal object). (<strong>LN1<\/strong>), (<strong>LN3<\/strong>), (<strong>LN4<\/strong>). (<strong>LN5<\/strong>)<br><br>and the <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">weaker universal representational thesis<\/mark><\/strong>: all ideas are <strong>intrinsically representational<\/strong>. (<strong>LN2<\/strong>)<\/td><td><br>\u201c<em><span style=\"color:blue\"><u><a href=\"https:\/\/philarchive.org\/archive\/NOLTOS\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>The Ontological Status of Cartesian Natures<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/u><\/span><\/em>.\u201d <em>Pacific Philosophical Quarterly<\/em> 78, no. 2 (1997): 169\u201394.<br><br>(<strong>LN1<\/strong>) \u201cFor Descartes, <strong><em>every idea<\/em> has two distinct kinds of being or reality\u2014\u2018formal\u2019 and \u2018objective\u2019<\/strong>\u2014and, consequently, <strong>can be regarded in two ways<\/strong>. When we think of ideas as <strong>modes or operations of the mind<\/strong>, we are regarding them in terms of <strong>their formal or actual being<\/strong>. This is the <strong>kind of reality<\/strong> that <strong><em>ideas share<\/em><\/strong> <strong><em>with all actually existing things<\/em><\/strong>, whether material or spiritual. As modes, <strong>ideas<\/strong> also have the <strong>same degree of formal being as all other modes<\/strong> and as each other.\u201d (174)<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">False<\/mark><\/strong>. Some ideas\u2014pain, secondary-quality sensations, the idea of nothing, and certain eternal truths such as <em>ex nihilo, nihil fit<\/em>\u2014contain no <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br>(<strong>LN2<\/strong>) \u201cSince <strong>ideas are intrinsically representational<\/strong> for Descartes, <strong>every idea exhibits some internal object<\/strong> to the intellect whether or not the object exhibited has a counterpart outside the intellect. For example, I have ideas which represent other men, animals, and angels \u2018even if there are no men besides me, no animals, and no angels in the world.\u2019 (Third Meditation; AT VII, 43). While lacking actual or formal existence, <strong>these things at least have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective being<\/u><\/span><\/a> in the mind<\/strong>.\u201d (175)<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">False<\/mark><\/strong>. A mental state can exhibit content to a mind without internally representing an object with <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br>(<strong>LN3<\/strong>) \u201cIn a move which will have important consequences for the ontology of mathematical objects, <strong>Descartes identifies this internal object of thought with the idea itself considered objectively<\/strong>. In the Third Meditation, he says that <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective being<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong> is the mode of being \u2018<strong>by which a thing exists . . . in the intellect by way of an idea<\/strong>\u2019 (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/71\">AT VII 41<\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/29\/mode\/1up\">CSM II 29<\/a>). This does not yet state the <strong>identification between an idea and its internal object, but it is suggestive of it<\/strong>.\u201d (175\u201376)<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">False<\/mark><\/strong>. In a case such as a cold sensation, the \u2018internal object of thought\u2019 is just the formally real phenomenal content; the sensation does not contain that content as <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> or it would not feel chilly.]<br><br>(<strong>LN4<\/strong>) \u201cBut, as Chappell has noted, Descartes thinks the term <em>res cogitata<\/em> is ambiguous. Whereas Caterus uses it to refer to something outside the intellect, Descartes says he intended it to stand for the idea itself \u2018which is never outside the intellect.\u2019 The idea of the sun, for example, \u2018is <strong>the thing which is thought of<\/strong> [<em>res cogitata<\/em>] <strong><em>in so far as it has <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective being<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/em><\/strong> in the intellect\u2019 (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/132\">AT VII 102<\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/74\/mode\/1up\">CSM II 74\u201375<\/a>).\u201d (176)<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">True<\/mark><\/strong> for narrow-sense ideas, but <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">false<\/mark><\/strong> if Nolan extends the claim to all broad-sense ideas.]<br><br>(<strong>LN5<\/strong>) \u201cAs we have seen, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>formal reality<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong> characterizes things that <strong>actually exist<\/strong>. <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>, by contrast, is the kind of reality that <strong>things in the intellect possess, as <em>the internal objects of thought<\/em>.<\/strong>\u201d (176)<br><br>[<strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">False<\/mark><\/strong>. A cold sensation presents phenomenal coolness as an internal object of thought without containing that coolness as <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.]<br><br><\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG_8302.jpeg\" alt=\"A logo for the Latin Library of a torch centered between two green laurel sheaves with six double-lobed leaves serving as a bullet point.\">&nbsp; The sharpest division in this group is between commentators who explicitly say that all ideas have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>\u2014<a href=\"https:\/\/www.encyclopedia.com\/arts\/educational-magazines\/brown-deborah-j-1963\">Brown<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.ucla.edu\/person\/john-carriero\/\">Carriero<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Vere_Chappell\">Chappell<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/Dan%20Kaufman\">Kaufman<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Steven_Nadler\">Nadler<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books\/about\/Primary_and_Secondary_Qualities.html?id=_cIkTLLkxOgC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=kp_read_button&amp;hl=en&amp;newbks=1&amp;newbks_redir=0&amp;gboemv=1#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\">Nolan<\/a>\u2014and those who stop at the weaker thesis that all ideas are representational\u2014<a href=\"https:\/\/philpeople.org\/profiles\/michael-della-rocca\">Della Rocca<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.filosoficas.unam.mx\/~clga\/home.html\">Garc\u00eda<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.uiowa.edu\/people\/david-cunning\">Cunning<\/a> is the clearest directly verified rejector of both universal theses in the set, although his treatment of sensations as non-ideas is too restrictive.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The table therefore sets up the post\u2019s central pressure: Descartes\u2019s own texts require a more differentiated account than the universal models provide.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-43012\" style=\"width: 1200px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/pixelup.mov\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Common Notions Are the Strongest Case Within This Post<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The anti-universal argument developed here is strongest, within the present post, for&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/common-notion\/B38132266624F1938C3AD33873ED682D\">common notions<\/a>&nbsp;such as&nbsp;<em>ex nihilo, nihil fit<\/em>. It is weaker, and requires additional argument, when the topic shifts to geometrical essences or true and immutable natures. That distinction matters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A successful challenge to universal <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> does not by itself settle the status of every&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/eternal-truth\/73F9E6BBF9B656571513B62E74434656\">eternal truth<\/a>. It does, however, undermine any attempt to derive <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> for all such cases from a universal premise about Cartesian ideas as such. Even if one wished to defend <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> for some geometrical essences, that would not rescue the broader universal thesis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The strongest order of argument is therefore two-stage. First, reject the universal starting point. Second, examine the harder special cases individually. This prevents geometrical essences or true and immutable natures from being used to smuggle universality back in at the beginning.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">What Common Notions Are for Descartes<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/descartesconvers0000desc\/page\/12\/mode\/2up?q=Common+notions\">Burman<\/a>&nbsp;\/&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1644part1.pdf\"><em>Principles<\/em>&nbsp;I.48\u201349<\/a>&nbsp;context, Descartes\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/common-notion\/B38132266624F1938C3AD33873ED682D\">common notions<\/a> are chiefly eternal truths or axioms: propositions that reside within the mind and are not things or modes of things. Although <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/descartesconvers0000desc\/page\/12\/mode\/2up?q=Common+notions\">Burman\u2019s<\/a> authority is reportorial rather than authoritative, the relevant remarks cohere with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1644part1.pdf\"><em>Principles<\/em> I.48\u201349<\/a> and with Descartes&#8217;s official taxonomy, so the dialectical pressure does not depend on Burman alone. This is the usage most directly relevant to <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/descartesconvers0000desc\/page\/12\/mode\/2up?q=Common+notions\">Burman\u2019s<\/a> remark that ideas of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/common-notion\/B38132266624F1938C3AD33873ED682D\">common notions<\/a> are not, strictly speaking, ideas of real things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u201cAll the objects of our perception may be regarded either as things or affections of things, or as eternal truths.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;(AT VIIIA 23;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/dl1.cuni.cz\/pluginfile.php\/753874\/mod_resource\/content\/1\/Descartes%20Rene%20-%20Philosophical%20Writings.%20vol%201.pdf\">CSM I 208<\/a>)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u201cSuch truths are termed common notions or axioms.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;(AT VIIIA 23\u201324;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/dl1.cuni.cz\/pluginfile.php\/753874\/mod_resource\/content\/1\/Descartes%20Rene%20-%20Philosophical%20Writings.%20vol%201.pdf\">CSM I 209<\/a>)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Descartes gives examples such as \u201cNothing comes from nothing,\u201d \u201cIt is impossible for the same thing to be and not to be at the same time,\u201d \u201cWhat is done cannot be undone,\u201d and \u201cHe who thinks cannot but exist while he thinks\u201d (AT VIIIA 23\u201324;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/dl1.cuni.cz\/pluginfile.php\/753874\/mod_resource\/content\/1\/Descartes%20Rene%20-%20Philosophical%20Writings.%20vol%201.pdf\">CSM I 209<\/a>). These examples matter because they are not introduced as object-like&nbsp;<em>representata<\/em>. They are introduced as truths.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u201cWe also have ideas of common notions, which are not strictly speaking ideas of real things. But this is an extended sense of the term \u2018idea\u2019.\u201d<\/strong>(<em><a href=\"https:\/\/earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1648.pdf\">Conversation with Burman<\/a><\/em>, AT V 153; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-3\/page\/338\/mode\/2up\">CSMK 338<\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1648.pdf\">Early Modern Texts trans.<\/a>, p. 6;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/descartesconvers0000desc\/page\/12\/mode\/2up?q=Common+notions\">Cottingham translation<\/a>, p. 13)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That quotation does not deductively prove that common notions lack <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. It does prove that one cannot simply infer strict <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>-bearing ideahood from the fact that common notions are thinkable or called \u201cideas\u201d in an extended sense. The pro-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> interpreter must specify what, exactly, is objectively contained in the thought.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the earlier&nbsp;<em>Rules for the Direction of the Mind<\/em>, Descartes also speaks of common notions as inferential links:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u201cthose common notions which are, as it were, links which connect other simple natures together.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;(AT X 419;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/dl1.cuni.cz\/pluginfile.php\/753874\/mod_resource\/content\/1\/Descartes%20Rene%20-%20Philosophical%20Writings.%20vol%201.pdf\">CSM I 45<\/a>)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This confirms the functional role of common notions: they are structural principles of inference, not ordinary object-presenting ideas. They have intelligible content, but that is not the same as objectively real representational content.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Do Common Notions Contain Objective Reality?<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The best answer is: not as propositions or common notions considered in themselves. They are not empty noises; they are genuine, thinkable, truth-bearing contents. But their content is propositional or axiomatic rather than the internal object-content of a <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict idea<\/a> of a thing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The following inference is therefore invalid:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">We can think <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/common-notion\/B38132266624F1938C3AD33873ED682D\">common notions<\/a>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Whatever we can think is an idea.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Every idea has <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Therefore common notions have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The error lies in the equivocation between <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad ideahood<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict idea-of-a-thing<\/a> status. <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/descartesconvers0000desc\/page\/12\/mode\/2up?q=Common+notions\">Burman<\/a> blocks the automatic move from \u201cwe can call this an idea in an extended sense\u201d to \u201ctherefore it is a strict idea with <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.\u201d&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1644part1.pdf\"><em>Principles<\/em>&nbsp;I.48\u201349<\/a> likewise blocks the easy assimilation by placing common notions under eternal truths rather than under things or affections of things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That said, the anti-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> reading should not overstate itself. The classificatory distinction by itself does not entail that common notions lack <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. It instead shifts the burden. A defender of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> for a common notion must say what is objectively contained in it. That is the decisive question.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">The Idea of Nothing and the Limits of Strict Ideahood<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The idea of nothing sharpens the point. Descartes does not deny that we can think \u201cnothing.\u201d He denies that this thought is a strict idea in the full <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> sense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u201cThat idea is purely negative, and hardly counts as an idea at all.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;(<em><a href=\"https:\/\/earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1648.pdf\">Conversation with Burman<\/a><\/em>, AT V 146; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-3\/page\/334\/mode\/2up\">CSMK 334<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1648.pdf\">Early Modern Texts<\/a> trans., p. 5)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Descartes\u2019s point is not merely classificatory. It is also genetic. Nothingness is not grasped as a positive self-standing item. It is understood through being. In the same discussion, Descartes says that every defect and negation presupposes that of which it is a defect or negation. Thus the idea of nothing helps show that some contents are thinkable only derivatively and negatively, not as positive objective contents with their own rank of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The contrast with the idea of a lion is instructive. A lion can be thought as a thing, and a strict idea of a lion can be assigned <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> as an idea of a finite corporeal substance or animal. Nothing cannot be thought as a thing. It can only be thought negatively, through the negation of being. Hence the difference is not thinkable versus unthinkable; the difference is strict idea of a thing versus derivative negative thought.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Does Objective Reality Explain Aboutness?<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The deeper explanatory question is whether <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> explains why an idea is of its object, or whether Descartes assumes the ofness and then measures it. The texts support the second option.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u201cBy the term idea I understand the form of any thought whatever, by the immediate perception of which I am conscious of the same thought itself.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;(<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/190\">AT VII 160<\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/113\/mode\/1up\">CSM II 113<\/a>)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u201cBy the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> of an idea I mean the being of the thing represented by the idea, in so far as it exists in the idea.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;(<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/191\">AT VII 161<\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/113\/mode\/1up\">CSM II 113<\/a>)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The definition of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> presupposes representation: it is the being of the thing represented, insofar as that thing exists in the idea. It does not explain how the idea first becomes an idea of that thing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The same structure appears in the Third Meditation. Descartes first distinguishes ideas as modes of thought from ideas considered representationally:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u201cBut in so far as the ideas are simply modes of thought, there is no recognizable inequality among them.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;(<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/70\">AT VII 40<\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/27\/mode\/1up\">CSM II 27\u201328<\/a>)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u201cBut considering them as images, of which one represents one thing and another a different thing, it is evident that they differ widely.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;(<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/70\">AT VII 40<\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/28\/mode\/1up\">CSM II 28<\/a>)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u201cthose that represent substances are something more, and contain in themselves, so to speak, more <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> than those that represent only modes or accidents.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;(<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/70\">AT VII 40<\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/28\/mode\/1up\">CSM II 28<\/a>)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The order matters. First, one idea represents one thing and another a different thing. Then <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> is introduced as a way of ranking what is already represented. The doctrine measures represented content; it does not generate the original directedness. Nor does the ranking apparatus itself bind every mental episode. The hierarchy mode\/finite substance\/infinite substance is a measure designed for the causal-adequacy proof; episodes that do not enter that proof\u2014sensations, negations, axioms\u2014need not be assigned a rank at all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That is why <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> is not useless but non-basic. It is indispensable for Descartes\u2019s causal adequacy argument in the Third Meditation. The idea of God must have a cause with at least as much <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">formal reality<\/a> as the idea contains objectively. But that causal argument already assumes that the idea is the idea of God. <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">Objective reality<\/a> then measures that content and determines what kind of cause would be adequate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The conclusion is therefore precise: <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> is not Descartes\u2019s basic theory of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/intentionality\/\">intentionality<\/a>. It presupposes intentional determinacy and then assigns an ontological measure to a subset of already intentional contents.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Conceptual Content Without Objective Reality<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The term \u201cconcept\u201d should be used carefully. Descartes does not officially introduce \u201cconcepts\u201d as a separate mental ontology over and above ideas, judgments, common notions, and simple natures. But a modern interpreter may use \u201cconceptual content\u201d as a cautious label for thinkable intellectual contents not exhausted by <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The revised claim is not that Descartes explicitly posits <a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/concepts\/\">concepts<\/a> as a third mental kind. The claim is that Descartes\u2019s practice commits him to non-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> conceptual or intellectual content. Common notions, eternal truths, negative conceptions, relations, and false but intelligible judgments all require thinkable materials that cannot simply be identified with <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The better formulation is therefore:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Broad-sense ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>&nbsp;are the mental episodes or modes in which content is present to the mind.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Some <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>broad-sense ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>&nbsp;have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> because they internally represent a&nbsp;<em>representatum<\/em>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Some <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>broad-sense ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>&nbsp;are vehicles of conceptual or intelligible content that lacks <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This preserves Descartes\u2019s own vocabulary while acknowledging that his theory of thought is broader than the official <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> apparatus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">False but intelligible judgments sharpen this result. A proposition such as \u201ctime is relative to speed\u201d would not be an eternal truth for Descartes and would likely be judged false by him. Yet it is thinkable. Its thinkability cannot depend on being an eternal truth, and it need not be one unified <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>-bearing&nbsp;<em>representatum<\/em>. It can be a composed act of intellect and judgment using broad intellectual materials such as duration, motion, relation, comparison, and measure. This case shows that thinkability outruns both eternal truth and <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Accordingly, \u201cconceptual content\u201d is acceptable if it means non-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> intellectual content available for thought and judgment. It is misleading only if it is treated as an explicit Cartesian ontology that Descartes himself formally names and separates from ideas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"1444\" class=\"wp-image-43020\" style=\"width: 1200px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747.jpeg\" alt=\"A reversed oval-framed painted portrait of Ren\u00e9 Descartes, depicted with shoulder-length dark hair, a mustache and small goatee, a black embroidered coat, and a white lace collar. Around the frame is a Latin inscription naming him and noting the year 1646, set into a carved stone architectural surround and services as an entertaining divider.\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747.jpeg 1888w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747-249x300.jpeg 249w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747-851x1024.jpeg 851w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747-125x150.jpeg 125w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747-768x924.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747-1276x1536.jpeg 1276w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0747-1702x2048.jpeg 1702w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Nolan on Eternal Truths and Objective Reality<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/philarchive.org\/s\/Lawrence%20Nolan\">Lawrence<\/a>&nbsp;<a style=\"color: black; text-decoration-line: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books\/about\/Primary_and_Secondary_Qualities.html?id=_cIkTLLkxOgC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=kp_read_button&amp;hl=en&amp;newbks=1&amp;newbks_redir=0&amp;gboemv=1#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\">Nolan\u2019s<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/cla.csulb.edu\/departments\/philosophy\/faculty\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/IMG_4010.png\" alt=\"A reversed enhanced colorized photographic headshot cutout of Lawrence Nolan wearing a blue shirt is used for visual identification.\" style=\"width: 85px;\"><\/a> \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/philarchive.org\/archive\/NOLTOS\"><u>The Ontological Status of Cartesian Natures<\/u><\/a>,\u201d&nbsp;<em>Pacific Philosophical Quarterly<\/em>&nbsp;78 (1997): 169\u201394, is one of the most serious pro-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> readings. Nolan\u2019s paper is especially strong for true and immutable natures and geometrical essences. His explicit target is not primarily <a href=\"https:\/\/earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1648.pdf\">Burman\u2019s<\/a> discussion of common notions, but his argument can be extended to eternal truths if one grants his representational premises.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nolan\u2019s starting point is strongly representationalist. [See the (LN1-LN5) quotations at the end of the Table of Cartesian Commentators.] He claims that Cartesian ideas are intrinsically representational and that every idea exhibits an internal object to the intellect. Once that premise is granted, eternal truths can be brought into the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> framework if they can be shown to be innate ideas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">His strongest route runs as follows. First, true and immutable natures have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective being<\/a> as innate ideas. Second, Descartes\u2019s discussions of eternal truths and essences suggest that eternal truths are innate intellectual contents. Third, if eternal truths are innate ideas, and all ideas have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective being<\/a>, then eternal truths contain <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. This is a powerful and elegant reading because it avoids Platonism while preserving the reality of mathematical and eternal-truth content in the mind.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The objection is not that Nolan\u2019s reading is frivolous. It is that the final step remains under-argued for common notions such as&nbsp;<em>ex nihilo, nihil fit<\/em>. Descartes\u2019s texts support the claim that common notions are innate, intelligible, and truth-bearing. They do not by themselves show that such truths contain <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. For that conclusion, the pro-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> reader must identify what is objectively contained.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Testing Candidate OR-Contents for&nbsp;<em>Ex Nihilo, Nihil Fit<\/em><\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table class=\"has-fixed-layout\"><thead><tr><th><mark style=\"background-color:#fcb900\" class=\"has-inline-color has-black-color\">Candidate <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>-content<\/mark><\/th><th><mark style=\"background-color:#9b51e0\" class=\"has-inline-color has-white-color\">Assessment<\/mark><\/th><\/tr><\/thead><tbody><tr><td><strong>Nothingness<\/strong><\/td><td>This is the weakest candidate. Burman says the idea of nothing is purely negative and hardly counts as an idea at all. If nothingness is the alleged&nbsp;<em>representatum<\/em>, then the view assigns <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective being<\/a> to what Descartes treats as barely even an idea.<\/td><\/tr><tr><td><strong>Impossibility<\/strong><\/td><td>Better than nothingness, but still insufficient. Impossibility captures the modal force of the axiom, but Descartes does not present impossibility as a positive internal object with a determinate <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> grade. It functions more like what the intellect sees by natural light.<\/td><\/tr><tr><td><strong>Causal dependence<\/strong><\/td><td>This is the strongest candidate. The axiom expresses a positive intelligible order: being cannot arise from non-being; effects require causes. But even here Descartes most clearly gives us a necessary truth grasped by the intellect, not an object presented in an idea with <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective being<\/a>.<\/td><\/tr><tr><td><strong>Being as such<\/strong><\/td><td>This has some textual appeal because the axiom concerns being and non-being. But it is too generic. If the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>-content is merely being as such, the distinctive content of the axiom disappears.<\/td><\/tr><tr><td><strong>The truth-proposition itself<\/strong><\/td><td>This is closest to Nolan\u2019s official ontology of eternal truths as innate ideas. But it risks renaming the problem rather than solving it. One must still explain how a proposition or eternal truth counts as objectively contained in the Third Meditation sense.<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The strongest possible Nolanian candidate is causal dependence: the positive order according to which being must derive from a cause and cannot arise from non-being. But even that candidate remains under-supported as <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. It explains what the proposition is about; it does not yet show that the relevant content exists objectively in the intellect as a strict&nbsp;<em>representatum<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The objection to Nolan can therefore be stated as follows:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark>Objection:<\/mark><\/strong>&nbsp;Nolan infers <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> from intelligibility plus innateness. But Descartes\u2019s texts support only the weaker claim that eternal truths are innate and clearly thinkable. In the case of&nbsp;<em>ex nihilo, nihil fit<\/em>, every candidate <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>-content either fails or remains underdetermined. Nothingness is too negative; impossibility is modal force; being as such is too generic; the proposition itself merely renames the problem; and causal dependence, though strongest, still looks more like intelligible truth-content than an objectively contained&nbsp;<em>representatum<\/em>. Hence Nolan has not shown that common notions and eternal truths, simply as such, possess <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Nolan\u2019s Pro-OR Argument versus the Anti-OR Reply<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table class=\"has-fixed-layout\"><tbody><tr><td><strong><mark style=\"background-color:#fcb900\" class=\"has-inline-color has-black-color\">Nolan\u2019s pro-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a> argument<\/mark><\/strong><\/td><td><strong><mark style=\"background-color:#9b51e0\" class=\"has-inline-color has-white-color\">Anti-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a> reply from&nbsp;<em>Principles<\/em>&nbsp;I.49 and Burman<\/mark><\/strong><\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Nolan begins from a strong representational premise: Cartesian ideas are intrinsically representational. If that premise is granted, then once eternal truths are counted as ideas, <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a> follows naturally.<\/td><td><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/descartesconvers0000desc\/page\/12\/mode\/2up?q=Common+notions\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Burman<\/u><\/span><\/a> blocks the automatic extension. Descartes says common notions are not strictly speaking ideas of real things. Extended-use ideahood does not automatically imply strict <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a>-bearing ideahood.<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Nolan assimilates true and immutable natures to innate ideas with <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective being<\/u><\/span><\/a>. This is persuasive for geometrical essences such as triangle.<\/td><td><a href=\"https:\/\/www.earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1644part1.pdf\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u><em>Principles<\/em>&nbsp;I.49<\/u><\/span><\/a> places common notions such as \u201cNothing comes from nothing\u201d in the class of eternal truths, not among things or modes of things. That classification creates pressure against reifying the proposition as an object-like&nbsp;<em>representatum<\/em>.<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Nolan extends the point from essences to eternal truths: if eternal truths are innate ideas, and ideas have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective being<\/u><\/span><\/a>, then eternal truths have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a>.<\/td><td>The inference assumes the very universal premise in dispute. The anti-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a> reading grants innateness and intelligibility while denying that they entail <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Nolan\u2019s strongest candidate for&nbsp;<em>ex nihilo, nihil fit<\/em>&nbsp;is a positive intelligible order of causal dependence.<\/td><td>Causal dependence is the best pro-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a> candidate, but Descartes still presents the axiom as a truth grasped by natural light, not as an internally contained object with <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective being<\/u><\/span><\/a>.<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Nolan\u2019s reading is unified and anti-Platonist: eternal truths are not external entities but innate contents in the mind.<\/td><td>The anti-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a> reply is equally anti-Platonist: some eternal truths are in the mind as truth-content, not as <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>-bearing&nbsp;<em>representata<\/em>. Existing in thought is not the same as containing <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The fairest verdict is this: Nolan\u2019s reading remains formidable for geometrical essences and true and immutable natures. For common notions such as&nbsp;<em>ex nihilo, nihil fit<\/em>, however, the anti-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> reply from&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/descartes1644part1.pdf\"><em>Principles<\/em>&nbsp;I.49<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/descartesconvers0000desc\/page\/12\/mode\/2up?q=Common+notions\">Burman<\/a> is stronger because Descartes\u2019s own classification is easier to reconcile with conceptual intelligibility than with strict <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>-bearing internal representation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Secondary-Quality Sensations and the Sensory Pressure Against Universal OR<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The sensory argument is distinct from the common-notion argument. It concerns <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad-sense ideas<\/a> that are positive modes of mind but lack internal <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. Secondary-quality sensations such as cold, pain, heat, and taste are formally real modes of thought. They may be clear and distinct&nbsp;<em>qua<\/em>&nbsp;sensations. They may also externally represent as lawfully connected signs of bodily configurations. But they do not thereby internally represent those configurations or secondary qualities by containing <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The strongest consideration is phenomenological and textual at once. A sensation of pain hurts. A representation of pain need not hurt. A cold sensation feels cold. A representation of coldness need not feel cold. This indicates that the felt quality belongs to the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">formal reality<\/a> of the sensation as a mode of mind, not to <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> as represented content.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20081220142538\/http:\/\/www.freewebs.com\/dqsdnlj\/d.html\">Fourth Replies<\/a> cold passage reinforces the point:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"1600\" class=\"wp-image-42956\" style=\"width: 1200px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0706-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"A screen capture of the CSM Fourth Replies to Arnauld Concerning God.\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0706-scaled.jpeg 1920w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0706-225x300.jpeg 225w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0706-768x1024.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0706-113x150.jpeg 113w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0706-1152x1536.jpeg 1152w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/IMG_0706-1536x2048.jpeg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here Descartes distinguishes the positive sensation from the alleged external coldness that the mind may judge to be outside it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThus if cold is simply an absence, the idea of cold is not coldness as it exists objectively in the intellect, but something else, which I erroneously mistake for this absence, namely a sensation which in fact has no existence outside the intellect.\u201d (<em>Fourth Replies<\/em>: AT VII 233)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If cold is merely a privation, then the idea of cold is not cold itself objectively in the intellect; it is a certain sensation. The positivity lies in the sensation, not in a tiny <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> content of coldness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Therefore the anti-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> reading does not deny that sensations can represent in every sense. It denies that secondary-quality sensations internally represent via <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. They may externally represent as lawful signs of particular configurations of matter in motion, but their sign-function is not the same as <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Against Gueroult\u2019s Infinitesimal-OR Reading<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/alchetron.com\/Martial-Gueroult\">Martial<\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Martial_Gueroult\">Gueroult<\/a>&nbsp; &nbsp;<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"124\" class=\"wp-image-4177\" style=\"width: 150px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0ad88657-b3cb-4a91-b34c-97f074b87d11.png\" alt=\"A reversed enhanced colorized photographic headshot cutout of Martial Gueroult wearing a red shirt used for visually identifying him.\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0ad88657-b3cb-4a91-b34c-97f074b87d11.png 320w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0ad88657-b3cb-4a91-b34c-97f074b87d11-300x248.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/> supports the minimal objective reality thesis in&nbsp;<em><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/descartesselonlo0002guer\/page\/n6\/mode\/1up\"><u>Descartes selon L\u2019Ordre des Raisons<\/u><\/a><\/em>.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/rec\/GURDSL\">Vol 1: The Soul and God.<\/a>&nbsp;Paris: Aubier, 1952. Translated by&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.usf.edu\/arts-sciences\/departments\/philosophy\/about-us\/faculty\/roger-ariew.aspx\">Roger<\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Roger_Ariew\">Ariew<\/a> as&nbsp;<em><u><a href=\"https:\/\/scholar.google.com\/scholar?q=10.1111\/j.1468-0149.1985.tb01444.x\">Descartes\u2019 Philosophy Interpreted According to the Order of Reasons, Vol. 1: The Soul and God<\/a><\/u><\/em>. Gueroult writes:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u201cFrom the perspective of being, it is materially an objective reality infinitely small, certainly as close as possible to zero, but not reducible to it and preserving something positive.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;(220)&nbsp;<strong>\u201cNo doubt, the objective reality of the sensible idea is only a minimum; . . . .\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;(220)&nbsp;<strong>\u201cIt [objective reality] will lead to the unfolding of the whole range of objective realities, from the highest, that is, from the absolute maximum where it is infinite (God), down to the minimum, where it is the limit of being and nothingness, . . . .\u201d<\/strong> (221). Translation by ChatGPT 5.2 Thinking.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Martial Gueroult\u2019s interpretation is a sophisticated middle path. It preserves representationality for sensible ideas by treating their <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> as minimal, nearly indistinguishable from nothingness, or infinitely small. This is attractive because it avoids saying that sensory ideas have robust <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> while still resisting the claim that they have none.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, the <strong>objections<\/strong> against Gueroult\u2019s approach are <em>strong<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Textual-basis problem.<\/strong>&nbsp;Descartes says in the Third Meditation that, if ideas such as heat and cold are true, the reality they represent is \u201cso scanty\u201d that he cannot distinguish it from unreality. But that does not amount to a doctrine of infinitesimal <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>. Gueroult turns an epistemic-comparative remark into a quasi-mathematical ontology.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Wrong bearer problem.<\/strong>&nbsp;In the <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20081220142538\/http:\/\/www.freewebs.com\/dqsdnlj\/d.html\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Fourth Replies<\/u><\/span><\/a>, the positive element is the sensation itself or the faculty of sensation. That positivity is <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>formal reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> in the mind, not a tiny positive <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> of external coldness.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Scale problem.<\/strong>&nbsp;Descartes\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> hierarchy is structured around modes, finite substances, and infinite substance. Gueroult\u2019s infinitesimal scale treats <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a> as though it varied continuously toward zero. That is not how the standard textual hierarchy is presented.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Causal-adequacy problem.<\/strong>&nbsp;If sensible ideas contain even infinitesimal positive <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a>, that content should require a formally or eminently adequate cause. Descartes instead connects materially false ideas to defect, obscurity, and confusion.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>God-deceiver pressure.<\/strong>&nbsp;If God authors sensations with even infinitesimal false outward-directed objective content, the non-deceiver strategy becomes harder to sustain. Descartes\u2019s better strategy is to locate the problem in obscure sensation and misuse of judgment, not in divine implantation of tiny false&nbsp;<em>representata<\/em>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Formal\/objective conflation.<\/strong>&nbsp;Sensations are positive and vivid as mental modes. That does not entail positive <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>. Gueroult\u2019s reading risks converting formal positivity into objective representational content.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The sharpest objection is this: Gueroult illegitimately converts Descartes\u2019s claim that obscure sensory ideas, if true, represent a reality so scanty as to be scarcely distinguishable from unreality into a doctrine that sensations themselves contain infinitesimal <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. The <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20081220142538\/http:\/\/www.freewebs.com\/dqsdnlj\/d.html\">Fourth Replies<\/a> instead identifies the positive element as the formally real sensation in me and treats the misleading outward reference as arising from obscurity. Hence Gueroult collapses formal positivity into objective representational content.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"TableOfComparisons\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Table of Comparisons<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Main Conclusion:<\/strong>&nbsp;The table suggests a four-part structure in Descartes that he never fully systematizes:&nbsp;<strong>(1)<\/strong>&nbsp;strict <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>-bearing ideas of things, exemplified by lion;&nbsp;<strong>(2)<\/strong>&nbsp;purely negative derivative thinkables, exemplified by nothing;&nbsp;<strong>(3)<\/strong>&nbsp;clear non-thing truths or axioms, exemplified by common notions; and&nbsp;<strong>(4)<\/strong>&nbsp;positive sensory modes apt for material falsity, exemplified by cold sensation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This strongly suggests that <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> is not Descartes\u2019s general theory of aboutness, but rather a theory of one subset of thinkable contents, namely, strict internally representational ideas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table class=\"has-fixed-layout\"><thead><tr><th class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">Case<\/th><th class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">Strict idea?<\/th><th class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">Idea of a thing?<\/th><th class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>?<\/th><th class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">Best Cartesian status<\/th><th class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">Dialectical pressure<\/th><\/tr><\/thead><tbody><tr><td><strong>Idea of a lion<\/strong><\/td><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">Yes<\/td><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">Yes<\/td><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">Yes<\/td><td>Paradigm strict idea of a thing; apt for <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> ranking in the Third Meditation.<\/td><td>If lion-directed thought is already determinate, <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> measures content rather than generating aboutness.<\/td><\/tr><tr><td><strong>Idea of nothing<\/strong><\/td><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">No, or only in an extended\/attenuated sense<\/td><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">No<\/td><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">No<\/td><td>Purely negative \u201cidea,\u201d hardly an idea at all, outside the strict sense.<\/td><td>Shows that genuine thinkability can outrun strict idea-of-a-thing structure and <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.<\/td><\/tr><tr><td><strong>Common notion<\/strong><\/td><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">No, not strictly<\/td><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">No<\/td><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">Not established; anti-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a> reading says no as proposition<\/td><td>Eternal truth, axiom, or inferential link residing in the mind.<\/td><td>Shows that there are clear, innate, truth-bearing contents that are not easily assimilated to strict <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a>-bearing ideas.<\/td><\/tr><tr><td><strong>Cold sensation<\/strong><\/td><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">No, on the anti-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a> reading<\/td><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">No, on that reading<\/td><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\">No, as internally representational content<\/td><td>Broad-sense idea \/ sensory mode; externally representational as sign, but not internally <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a>-bearing.<\/td><td>Presses against any simple equation of sensory ideahood with <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Conclusion by ChatGPT 5.5 Thinking<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The significance of the argument is substantial. If the post is right, <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> cannot be Descartes\u2019s general account of intentionality, concepthood, or mental content. It is a theory of one special class of thoughts: strict ideas whose contents can be ranked by represented object-type and inserted into the causal-adequacy reasoning of the Third Meditation. That is a major restriction. It means that Descartes\u2019s most famous doctrine of ideas does not explain thought as such, but only a delimited region within a wider mental economy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The question is therefore no longer whether common notions, negative conceptions, false propositions, or sensory states can somehow be forced back into the ontology of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. Some may have <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>-bearing constituents. Some may be linked to <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>-bearing ideas. But it does not follow that the propositions, negations, common notions, or sensations themselves are unified <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>-bearing&nbsp;<em>representata<\/em>. The real question is whether Descartes possesses a sufficiently articulated theory of non-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>-bearing content once he acknowledges that such thought-content exists.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Although <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/descartesconvers0000desc\/page\/12\/mode\/2up?q=Common+notions\">Burman\u2019s<\/a> authority is reportorial rather than authoritative, the relevant remarks cohere with Principles I.48\u201349 and with Descartes&#8217;s official taxonomy, so the dialectical pressure does not depend on Burman alone. <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/descartesconvers0000desc\/page\/12\/mode\/2up?q=Common+notions\">Burman<\/a> matters because he helps reveal this pressure. <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/descartesconvers0000desc\/page\/12\/mode\/2up?q=Common+notions\">Burman<\/a> does not merely provide an incidental remark about common notions. He shows Descartes\u2019s own willingness to restrict strict ideahood and to recognize extended-use \u2018ideas\u2019 that are not ideas of real things. Once that is granted, the strongest Cartesian retreat is a layered account: strict ideas of things; common notions or axiomatic truths; derivative negative thoughts; broad sensory modes; and complex judgments that compose intellectual materials. That layered account is more textually stable than universal <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>, but it comes at a cost: <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> is no longer a universal theory of thought.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The deepest payoff is methodological. <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">Objective reality<\/a> should not be asked to do work Descartes\u2019s texts do not show it doing. Descartes uses <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> to rank already represented contents and to ground causal-metaphysical inferences, especially in the God proof. He does not show that <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> first generates the ofness of thought. Once that explanatory order is restored, the landscape changes: aboutness becomes broader than <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>, strict ideas become one species of content among others, and the task becomes mapping the larger Cartesian taxonomy of thinkable content rather than inflating <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> until it covers every intelligible mental item.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"AppendixFull\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\"><strong>Appendix A:<\/strong> Full Argumentative Outline<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Main claim:<\/strong>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">Objective reality<\/a> is not coextensive with all thinkable content. It applies most securely to strict ideas internally representing something as objectively contained.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Textual pressure from&nbsp;<em>Principles<\/em>&nbsp;I.48\u201349:<\/strong>&nbsp;Descartes distinguishes things, affections of things, and eternal truths. Common notions are placed under eternal truths or axioms.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Textual pressure from Burman:<\/strong>&nbsp;Descartes says the idea of nothing is purely negative and hardly an idea at all, and that ideas of common notions are not strictly ideas of real things.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Inferential target:<\/strong>&nbsp;The invalid inference is from thinkability to ideahood, and from ideahood to <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Positive case pressure:<\/strong>&nbsp;Even in a lion-thought, <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> measures already determinate content; it does not explain the original lion-directedness.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Proper role of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>:<\/strong>&nbsp;It ranks represented contents for causal-metaphysical purposes, especially in the Third Meditation proof of God.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Comparative taxonomy:<\/strong>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict ideas<\/a> of things; derivative negative contents; common notions and axioms; sensory modes.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Final upshot:<\/strong>&nbsp;Descartes has materials for distinguishing <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a>-bearing contents from non-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> contents, but he does not fully stabilize this into a comprehensive theory.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"Addendum\" class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\"><strong>Appendix B:<\/strong> Addendum on Common Notions, Eternal Truths, and Non-OR Conceptual Content<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This appendix consolidates the conversational addenda into argumentative form. The governing question is whether common notions such as&nbsp;<em>ex nihilo, nihil fit<\/em>&nbsp;contain <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. The answer defended here is that common notions have genuine conceptual or intelligible content, but that content should not be identified with <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> unless a determinate or at least positively typed&nbsp;<em>representatum<\/em>&nbsp;can be specified.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Three clarifications are central.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><strong>The content of a common notion is not nothing.<\/strong>&nbsp;A <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/common-notion\/B38132266624F1938C3AD33873ED682D\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>common notion<\/u><\/span><\/a> is an intelligible truth-content or axiom grasped by the intellect. It is capable of clear and distinct perception and can guide reasoning.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>The content of a common notion is not automatically <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>.&nbsp;Thinkability and innateness do not entail <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> requires internal objective containment of a&nbsp;<em>representatum<\/em>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Common notions may involve conceptual materials.<\/strong>&nbsp;The mind may employ notions such as being, nothing, impossibility, dependence, truth, or causality. But the presence of conceptual materials does not make the proposition as a whole one more <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a>-bearing item.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The most stable formulation is this: broad-sense ideas can be vehicles of conceptual content, and some conceptual content lacks <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. This is not the introduction of a new official Cartesian ontology called \u2018concepts.\u2019 It is a reconstruction of what Descartes\u2019s texts require once common notions, negative conceptions, false judgments, and sensory modes are placed alongside <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict ideas<\/a> of things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Thus:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><em>Nothing comes from nothing<\/em>&nbsp;is thinkable, but it lacks a clear positive <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a> candidate as a unified proposition.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><em>It is impossible for the same thing to be and not to be at the same time<\/em>&nbsp;is thinkable and necessary, but no specific <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a> content can be named with confidence as belonging to the proposition as such.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><em>Figure is the limit of extension<\/em>&nbsp;may involve <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a>-bearing constituents such as extension, but the proposition as a whole need not be a unified <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a>-bearing&nbsp;<em>representatum<\/em>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">False theoretical judgments are thinkable without being eternal truths or unified <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>OR<\/u><\/span><\/a>-bearing objects.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The conclusion is not that Descartes explicitly possesses a modern theory of <a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/concepts\/\">concepts<\/a>. It is that his practice commits him to a domain of non-<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a> thinkable content. <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">Objective reality<\/a> is therefore one format of content, not the universal condition of all content.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#800080\" class=\"has-inline-color\"><strong>Appendix C:<\/strong> Objections\/Suggestions by George Rudebusch with Dr. Ring\u2019s Replies Synopsized by ChatGPT 5.5 Thinking<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here is the critical summary.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>1. <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">Rudebusch\u2019s objection: the idea of nothing may be only a general problem of non-being<\/mark><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Rudebusch\u2019s point<\/mark><\/strong> is that the idea of nothing may not create a special problem for Descartes. It may be just another instance of the old problem of non-being: how can thought or language be about what is not? One way to avoid the problem is to deny that nothing is ever genuinely used as a referring term. On that view, nothing does not name an object; we can only mention the word nothing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">Ring\u2019s response<\/mark><\/strong> is that this is unavailable to Descartes because Descartes is not merely asking about a word. When one has the idea of nothing, one is not simply thinking about an English inscription, a sound, or the linguistic item nothing. Descartes would distinguish the mental act directed toward non-being or privation from the mental act directed toward a written or spoken sign. So Rudebusch\u2019s solution changes the object of analysis. It solves a linguistic puzzle by replacing Descartes\u2019s problem with a different problem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Critical verdict:<\/mark><\/strong> Ring\u2019s response is strong. Rudebusch\u2019s objection works only if Descartes\u2019s problem is semantic in the modern philosophy-of-language sense. But Descartes\u2019s problem concerns ideas, objective reality, privation, and the causal-explanatory status of mental content. The linguistic deflation of nothing does not explain how Descartes can have a negative idea of nothing in Meditation IV, nor how materially false ideas can present a privation or non-thing in a way that inclines the mind toward false judgment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:31px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>2. <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">Rudebusch\u2019s sub-objection: the idea of the word &#8220;nothing&#8221; has objective reality<\/mark><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Rudebusch adds<\/mark><\/strong> that there is objective reality in the idea of the word &#8220;nothing.&#8221; That is true if the idea is of a written mark, spoken sound, or conventional sign. A word-token is something: an inscription, vibration, sound pattern, or bodily\/extended mode. So an idea of that word can possess objective reality at the modal level.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">Ring\u2019s response<\/mark><\/strong> is that this is interesting but irrelevant. The idea of the word &#8220;nothing&#8221; is not the idea of nothing. The word-token has being; nothing does not. The first idea represents a linguistic item; the second is directed toward non-being, privation, or absence. Therefore Rudebusch has shown only that there can be objective reality in an idea of a sign. He has not shown that there is objective reality in the idea of nothing itself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Critical verdict:<\/mark><\/strong> Ring\u2019s distinction is decisive. Rudebusch&#8217;s suggestion equivocates between the sign and what the sign is used to signify. The idea of the word &#8220;nothing&#8221; has modal objective reality because the word is a real item or mode. But that does not confer objective reality on nothing as such. The move is a bait-and-switch: it replaces a problematic negative idea with an unproblematic positive idea of a linguistic object.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>3. <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">Rudebusch\u2019s objection: eternal truths may have propositions as their objective reality<\/mark><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Rudebusch\u2019s proposal<\/mark><\/strong> is that an eternal truth such as &#8220;From nothing, nothing comes&#8221; (<em>ex nihilo, nihil fit<\/em>) may have as its objective reality the proposition that &#8220;From nothing, nothing comes.&#8221; This would let one preserve objective reality by treating the proposition as what the mind represents.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">Ring\u2019s response<\/mark><\/strong> is that Descartes will not want propositions functioning as objective beings in the relevant sense. Objective reality belongs to what is represented as a being, nature, substance, or mode. But eternal truths and common notions are not entities for Descartes. They are often truths, rules, or intellectual functions, not things represented with ontological rank. They can be clear, distinct, innate, and indispensable without thereby being objectively real contents in the strict Cartesian sense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The crucial Ringian distinction is between intelligibility and objective reality. A thought can be meaningful without presenting a thing. The <em>ex nihilo<\/em> principle is not a blank in consciousness, but its intelligibility does not require a represented object with objective being. It functions as an intellectual rule or common notion rather than as a represented substance, mode, or nature.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Critical verdict:<\/mark><\/strong> Ring\u2019s response is philosophically stronger than Rudebusch\u2019s proposal. Rudebusch imports a proposition-object ontology that Descartes has no need to accept and would likely resist. Once propositions are treated as objective beings, Descartes faces a further causal question: what gives the proposition its being? Ring avoids that inflation by distinguishing strict representational content from intellectual function. The cost is that Ring must insist on a narrow sense of objective reality: not every clear and distinct thought has objective reality, even though it may have determinate intellectual content.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>4. <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">Rudebusch\u2019s concession or non-objection: secondary sensations<\/mark><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Rudebusch says<\/mark><\/strong> that he has no reply concerning secondary sensations. That is significant because secondary sensations are a harder case for his linguistic and propositional strategies. Cold, heat, pain, color, and similar sensations cannot plausibly be reduced to words, nor are they naturally treated as propositions. They are occurrent sensory modes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">Ring\u2019s implied response<\/mark><\/strong> is that secondary sensations have formal reality as modes of thought but do not, merely as sensations, contain objective reality. A sensation of cold presents itself phenomenally; it does not contain an objectively real cold-quality as its internal <em>representatum<\/em>. Its material falsity arises because its presentational character inclines the mind to treat a non-thing, privation, or confused sensory appearance as if it were a real quality in bodies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Critical verdict:<\/mark><\/strong> this is a major point in Ring\u2019s favor. Rudebusch\u2019s earlier maneuvers do not generalize. The word-strategy handles only linguistic tokens. The proposition-strategy handles only judgment-like contents. Neither explains sensory ideas such as cold. If Ring\u2019s account of secondary sensations is right, then the universal thesis that every idea contains objective reality is false. Some thoughts are ideas in the broad Cartesian sense without being internally representational in the strict objective-reality sense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>5. <mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">Rudebusch\u2019s further question: propositional attitudes<\/mark><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Rudebusch asks<\/mark><\/strong> how to treat fearing, loving, desiring, wishing, hating, doubting, affirming, denying, and similar acts. This is not exactly an objection, but it tests whether Ring\u2019s distinction between act, object, and objective reality can handle complex mental states.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">Ringian response<\/mark><\/strong> should be:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Propositional attitudes are formally real modes of thought. They may include objective reality when they contain or presuppose an idea of an object, but the attitude-form itself is not objective reality content.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For example:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table class=\"has-fixed-layout\"><tbody><tr><td><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-pale-pink-color\">Mental state<\/mark><\/strong><\/td><td><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">What has formal reality<\/mark><\/strong><\/td><td><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-amber-color\">What has objective reality<\/mark><\/strong><\/td><td><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">Ringian treatment<\/mark><\/strong><\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Fearing a lion<\/td><td>The act of fearing<\/td><td>The idea of the lion<\/td><td>Fear as fear has no objective reality; the embedded idea of the lion does<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Loving God<\/td><td>The act of loving<\/td><td>The idea of God<\/td><td>Love is a volitional or affective mode; the idea of God carries objective reality<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Desiring water<\/td><td>The act of desiring<\/td><td>The idea of water, if intellectually represented<\/td><td>Desire itself is not the objective content<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Hating injustice<\/td><td>The act of hating<\/td><td>Whatever content is involved in the idea of injustice<\/td><td>The hatred is a mode; the represented content must be separately analyzed<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Doubting that P<\/td><td>The act of doubting<\/td><td>The relevant ideas involved in P, if any<\/td><td>Doubt is not itself an idea-object<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Affirming that P<\/td><td>The act of affirmation<\/td><td>The ideas or common notions involved in P<\/td><td>Affirmation is an act of judgment, not a new representatum<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Denying that P<\/td><td>The act of denial<\/td><td>The ideas involved in P, plus negation as intellectual operation<\/td><td>Denial does not add objective reality as an object<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This preserves the Cartesian distinction between ideas strictly taken and other forms of thought. Some mental acts contain ideas; some presuppose ideas; some modify one\u2019s stance toward ideas; but it does not follow that the act itself has objective reality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\">Critical verdict:<\/mark><\/strong> Rudebusch\u2019s question is useful because it exposes the main issue. A modern theory of intentionality may treat fearing, loving, doubting, and affirming as propositional attitudes with representational contents. But Descartes\u2019s theory is not automatically a modern propositional-attitude theory. For Descartes, there is a difference between the idea involved in an act and the further form of thought by which the mind fears, loves, wills, affirms, or denies. Ring\u2019s answer should be that objective reality attaches, when it attaches at all, to the idea-content included in the act, not to the affective, volitional, or judicative attitude as such.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">Overall assessment<\/mark><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Rudebusch\u2019s objections<\/mark><\/strong> are attempts to save a broader representational reading by relocating difficult cases into three safer categories:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">The idea of nothing becomes an issue about the word nothing.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Eternal truths become proposition-objects.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Complex attitudes become representational contents.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">Ring\u2019s responses<\/mark><\/strong> block all three relocations. The controlling principle is that Descartes\u2019s objective reality is not equivalent to meaningfulness, thinkability, linguistic reference, propositional structure, or psychological directedness. Objective reality belongs only to ideas that contain a represented being, nature, substance, or mode in the strict Cartesian sense. Words, propositions, attitudes, and sensations must therefore be disaggregated: each may involve thought, awareness, or formal reality without thereby containing objective reality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">strongest Ringian conclusion<\/mark><\/strong> is this:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Descartes needs a broader category of thought than objective-reality-bearing representation. Some thoughts are meaningful, clear, distinct, innate, operational, affective, or judicative without presenting an objectively real representatum. Rudebusch\u2019s objections are valuable because they pressure the theory at its weakest points, but they fail wherever they replace Descartes\u2019s problem about idea-content with a different problem about words, propositions, or modern propositional attitudes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Works Cited<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"\"><div class=\"\">\n<div class=\"\">\n<div class=\"\">\n<div class=\"\">\n<div class=\"\">\n<div class=\"\">\n<div class=\"\">\n<div class=\"\">\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div class=\"works-cited\" style=\"padding-left: 2em; text-indent: -2em;\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.encyclopedia.com\/arts\/educational-magazines\/brown-deborah-j-1963\"><u>Brown<\/u><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/hpi.uq.edu.au\/profile\/433\/deborah-brown\"><u>Deborah J<\/u><\/a>.\u00a0\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/eclass.uoa.gr\/modules\/document\/file.php\/PHS414\/%5BJanet_Broughton%2C_John_Carriero%5D_A_Companion_to_Descartes.pdf\"><u>Descartes on True and False Ideas<\/u><\/a>.\u201d In <em><a href=\"https:\/\/eclass.uoa.gr\/modules\/document\/file.php\/PHS414\/%5BJanet_Broughton%2C_John_Carriero%5D_A_Companion_to_Descartes.pdf\"><u>A Companion to Descartes<\/u><\/a><\/em>, edited by \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.berkeley.edu\/people\/detail\/9\"><u>Janet<\/u><\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Janet_Broughton\"><u>Broughton<\/u><\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/John%20Carriero\"><u>John<\/u><\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.ucla.edu\/person\/john-carriero\/\"><u>Carriero<\/u><\/a>, 196\u2013215. Malden, MA: Blackwell Publishing, 2008.<\/p>\n<p><u><a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.ucla.edu\/person\/john-carriero\/\">Carriero<\/a><\/u>, <a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/John%20Carriero\"><u>John<\/u><\/a>. <em><a href=\"https:\/\/dokumen.pub\/between-two-worlds-a-reading-of-descartess-meditations-course-booknbsped-9781400833191.html\"><u>Between Two Worlds: A Reading of Descartes\u2019s Meditations<\/u><\/a><\/em>. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 2009.<\/p>\n<p><u><\/u><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Vere_Chappell\"><u>Chappell<\/u><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/45222989\"><u>Vere<\/u><\/a>. \u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/dokumen.pub\/essays-on-descartes-meditations-reprint-2019nbsped-9780520907836.html\"><u>The Theory of Ideas<\/u><\/a><\/em>.\u201d In <em><a href=\"https:\/\/dokumen.pub\/essays-on-descartes-meditations-reprint-2019nbsped-9780520907836-t-1061627.html\"><u>Essays in Descartes\u2019 Meditations<\/u><\/a><\/em>, edited by \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/amelierorty.blogspot.com\/2008\/03\/amelie-oksenberg-rorty.html\"><u>Am\u00e9lie Oksenberg<\/u><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Am%C3%A9lie_Rorty\"><u>Rorty<\/u><\/a>, 177\u201398. Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1986.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.uiowa.edu\/people\/david-cunning\"><u>Cunning<\/u><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/philpeople.org\/profiles\/david-cunning\"><u>David<\/u><\/a>. \u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/docslib.org\/doc\/382874\/an-anthology-of-philosophical-studies\"><u>Descartes on Sensations and Ideas of Sensations<\/u><\/a><\/em>.\u201d In <em><a href=\"https:\/\/docslib.org\/doc\/382874\/an-anthology-of-philosophical-studies\"><u>An Anthology of Philosophical Studies<\/u><\/a><\/em>, 17\u201332. Athens: Atiner Publishing, 2006.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/philpeople.org\/profiles\/michael-della-rocca\"><u>Della Rocca<\/u><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/yale.academia.edu\/MichaelDellaRocca\"><u>Michael<\/u><\/a>. \u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/ndl.ethernet.edu.et\/bitstream\/123456789\/8564\/1\/28.pdf.pdf\"><u>Judgment and Will<\/u><\/a><\/em>.\u201d In <a href=\"https:\/\/ndl.ethernet.edu.et\/bitstream\/123456789\/8564\/1\/28.pdf.pdf\"><u>The Blackwell Guide to Descartes\u2019 <em>Meditations<\/em><\/u><\/a>, edited by <a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/Stephen%20Gaukroger\"><u>Stephen<\/u><\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Stephen_Gaukroger#Life\"><u>Gaukroger<\/u><\/a>, 142\u201359. Malden, MA: Blackwell Publishing, 2006.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.filosoficas.unam.mx\/~clga\/home.html\"><u>Garc\u00eda<\/u><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/philpeople.org\/profiles\/claudia-lorena-garcia\/publications?app=530\"><u>Claudia<\/u><\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.filosoficas.unam.mx\/sitio\/claudia-garcia\"><u>Lorena<\/u><\/a>. \u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.filosoficas.unam.mx\/~clga\/docs\/MENRLAHP.pdf\"><u>Descartes: Ideas and the Mark of the Mental<\/u><\/a><\/em>.\u201d <em><a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/asearch.pl?pub=521486\"><u>History of Philosophy &amp; Logical Analysis<\/u><\/a><\/em> 3, no. 1 (2000): 21\u201353.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/Dan%20Kaufman\"><u>Kaufman<\/u><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.colorado.edu\/philosophy\/sites\/default\/files\/attached-files\/cv_kaufman.pdf\"><u>Dan<\/u><\/a>. \u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/kaufmania2525.weebly.com\/uploads\/5\/3\/2\/5\/53254587\/kaufman_material_falsity.pdf\"><u>Descartes on the Objective Reality of Materially False Ideas<\/u><\/a><\/em>.\u201d <em><a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/asearch.pl?pub=747\"><u>Pacific Philosophical Quarterly<\/u><\/a><\/em>\u00a081, no. 4 (2000): 385\u2013408.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Steven_Nadler\"><u>Nadler<\/u><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/714e4411-e80d-40da-9ac0-7d90e1d26dce.filesusr.com\/ugd\/4ee4bc_d1226add7c3640bab41d87b484723073.pdf\"><u>Steven<\/u><\/a>. \u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/ndl.ethernet.edu.et\/bitstream\/123456789\/8564\/1\/28.pdf.pdf\"><u>The Doctrine of Ideas<\/u><\/a><\/em>.\u201d In <a href=\"https:\/\/ndl.ethernet.edu.et\/bitstream\/123456789\/8564\/1\/28.pdf.pdf\"><u>The Blackwell Guide to Descartes\u2019 <em>Meditations<\/em><\/u><\/a>, edited by \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/Stephen%20Gaukroger\"><u>Stephen<\/u><\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Stephen_Gaukroger#Life\"><u>Gaukroger<\/u><\/a>, 86\u2013103. Malden, MA: Blackwell Publishing, 2006.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books\/about\/Primary_and_Secondary_Qualities.html?id=_cIkTLLkxOgC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=kp_read_button&amp;hl=en&amp;newbks=1&amp;newbks_redir=0&amp;gboemv=1#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\"><u>Nolan<\/u><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/philarchive.org\/s\/Lawrence%20Nolan\"><u>Lawrence<\/u><\/a>. \u201c<u><a href=\"https:\/\/philarchive.org\/archive\/NOLTOS\">The Ontological Status of Cartesian Natures<\/a><\/u>.\u201d <em>Pacific Philosophical Quarterly<\/em> 78, no. 2 (1997): 169\u201394.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/philpeople.org\/profiles\/alison-simmons\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/philpeople.org\/profiles\/alison-simmons\">Simmons<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/philosophy.fas.harvard.edu\/people\/alison-simmons\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"http:\/\/philosophy.fas.harvard.edu\/people\/alison-simmons\">Alison<\/a>. \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/2671991\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/2671991\">Are Cartesian Sensations Representational?<\/a>,\u201d <em>No\u00fbs<\/em>, 33, no. 3 (1999): 347\u201369.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/Kurt%20Dwayne%20Smith\">Smith<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/philpeople.org\/profiles\/kurt-smith\">Kurt<\/a>. \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/40232265?seq=1\">Descartes\u2019 Ontology of Sensation<\/a>,\u201d\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/i40008608\"><em>Canadian Journal of Philosophy<\/em>, 35, no. 4 (December 2005)<\/a>: 563\u201384.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/sandbox02-na.primo.exlibrisgroup.com\/discovery\/search?query=creator,exact,Wee,%20Cecilia,AND&amp;tab=Everything&amp;search_scope=MyInst_and_CI&amp;vid=01CACCL_CC:scc&amp;facet=creator,exact,Wee,%20Cecilia&amp;mode=advanced&amp;offset=0\">Wee<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/Cecilia%20Wee\">Cecilia<\/a>. <em><a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books\/about\/Material_Falsity_and_Error_in_Descartes.html?id=T8l-AgAAQBAJ&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=kp_read_button&amp;hl=en&amp;newbks=1&amp;newbks_redir=0&amp;gboemv=1#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\">Material Falsity and Error in Descartes\u2019s Meditations<\/a><\/em>, New York: Routledge, 2009.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.mesaieux.com\/Obituary\/Norman-J.-Wells\/10086586\">Wells<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/Norman%20j%20wells\">Norman<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/newspapers.bc.edu\/?a=d&amp;d=bcchronicle20130314-01.2.25&amp;e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-------\">J<\/a><strong>.<\/strong>\u00a0\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.pdcnet.org\/schoolman\/content\/schoolman_1967_0045_0001_0049_0061\">Objective Being: Descartes and His Sources<\/a>.\u201d <em>The Modern Schoolman<\/em> 45 (1967\u20131968): 49\u201361.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.mesaieux.com\/Obituary\/Norman-J.-Wells\/10086586\">Wells<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/Norman%20j%20wells\">Norman<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/newspapers.bc.edu\/?a=d&amp;d=bcchronicle20130314-01.2.25&amp;e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-------\">J<\/a><strong>.<\/strong>\u00a0\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/muse.jhu.edu\/article\/226975\/pdf\">Material Falsity in Descartes, Arnauld, and Suarez<\/a>.\u201d <em>Journal of the History of Philosophy<\/em> 22, no. 1 (1984): 25\u201350.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.mesaieux.com\/Obituary\/Norman-J.-Wells\/10086586\">Wells<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/s\/Norman%20j%20wells\">Norman<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/newspapers.bc.edu\/?a=d&amp;d=bcchronicle20130314-01.2.25&amp;e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-------\">J<\/a><strong>.<\/strong>\u00a0\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/muse.jhu.edu\/article\/226451\">Objective Reality of Ideas in Descartes, Caterus, and Suarez<\/a>.\u201d <em>Journal of the History of Philosophy<\/em> 28, no. 1 (1990): 33\u201361.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"2560\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/IMG_6450-scaled.png\" alt=\"An enhanced colorized drawing of a 17th century gold wooden scrolly book plate with cherubs at the top on either side with a central message in blue of D.T.O.I. over \u201cDescartes\u2019s Theory of Ideas\u201d and the DTOI URL underneath both and a drawing of Descartes centered under all is used as a divider.\" class=\"wp-image-38124\" 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