{"id":46187,"date":"2026-06-29T14:32:05","date_gmt":"2026-06-29T14:32:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/?p=46187"},"modified":"2026-08-31T03:10:18","modified_gmt":"2026-08-31T03:10:18","slug":"strict-and-broad-ideas-in-dtoi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/idea\/strict-and-broad-ideas-in-dtoi\/","title":{"rendered":"Strict and Broad Ideas in DTOI"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">Introduction<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Descartes\u2019s use of the word \u201c<em>idea<\/em>\u201d is undeniably non-univocal,<sup id=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-1\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote modern-footnotes-footnote--hover-on-desktop \" data-mfn=\"1\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000037420000000000000000_46187\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-1\">1<\/a><\/sup><span role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"1\"><span style=\"color:blue\">Descartes explicitly acknowledges the equivocal use of <em>idea<\/em> in the <em>Preface to the Reader<\/em>: \u201cI answer that the term \u2018idea\u2019 here is ambiguous. It can be taken either in the material sense, as an operation of the understanding, in which case it cannot be said to be more perfect than myself, or objectively, for the thing represented by this operation; and this thing, even if it is not supposed to exist outside my understanding, can nonetheless be more perfect than me in virtue of its essence.\u201d (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/38\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>AT VII 8<\/u><\/span><\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/7\/mode\/1up\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>CSM II 7<\/u><\/span><\/a>)<\/span><\/span> but this ambiguity is not itself an overlooked feature of his theory. Modern Cartesian commentators have recognized that Descartes sometimes uses <em>idea<\/em> strictly for thoughts that are <em>tanquam rerum imagines<\/em>, \u201cas it were the images of things\u201d (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/67\">AT VII 37<\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/25\/mode\/1up\">CSM II, 25<\/a>) [I prefer \u201cas if an image of a thing\u201d], while elsewhere employing the term much more broadly for what is immediately perceived in consciousness, including volitions, emotions, sensations, and other modes of thought.<sup id=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-2\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote modern-footnotes-footnote--hover-on-desktop \" data-mfn=\"2\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000037420000000000000000_46187\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-2\">2<\/a><\/sup><span role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"2\"><span style=\"color:blue\">For a clear contemporary recognition of these different uses, see Kurt Smith, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/archives\/fall2025\/entries\/descartes-ideas\/#IdeUndModThi\">Descartes\u2019 Theory of Ideas<\/a>,\u201d in <em>The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy<\/em>, Fall 2025 ed., ed. Edward N. Zalta and Uri Nodelman (Metaphysics Research Lab, Stanford University, 2025), especially <a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/archives\/fall2025\/entries\/descartes-ideas\/#thoughts\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>\u00a71, \u201cIdeas Understood as Modes of Thinking\u201d<\/u><\/span><\/a>. Smith discusses both Descartes\u2019s strict application of <em>idea<\/em> to thoughts that are <em>tanquam rerum imagines<\/em> and his broader formulations according to which an idea is whatever is immediately perceived by the mind. The interpretation defended here therefore does not claim that the strict and broad uses of <em>idea<\/em> have gone unnoticed. The point of departure comes instead with the status of objective reality. In <a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/archives\/fall2025\/entries\/descartes-ideas\/#ideasmodes\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>\u00a72, \u201cIdeas and the Formal-Objective Reality Distinction\u201d<\/u><\/span><\/a>, Smith states that ideas possess objective reality \u201cby their very nature.\u201d The present interpretation rejects that unrestricted conclusion and argues that objective reality belongs only to the content whereby a cognition internally represents a <em>representatum<\/em>.<\/span><br><br><\/span> The <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict\u2013broad distinction<\/a> developed here therefore does not purport to discover an ambiguity that Cartesian scholarship has missed. It uses that acknowledged ambiguity to expose a different and more consequential distinction that has not been adequately recognized: not all mental content falling within Descartes\u2019s broader use of <em>idea<\/em> possesses <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>.<sup id=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-3\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote modern-footnotes-footnote--hover-on-desktop \" data-mfn=\"3\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000037420000000000000000_46187\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-3\">3<\/a><\/sup><span role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"3\"><span style=\"color:blue\">For a comparison of prominent interpretations of Cartesian ideas and objective reality, see my \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/condensation-why-objective-reality-cannot-be-descartess-theory-of-thought-burman-common-notions-and-the-failure-of-the-strict-idea-model\/#TableOfCartesianCommentators\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Table of Cartesian Commentators on the Status of Ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d<\/span><br><br><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The central claim of this post is accordingly the <strong><em>non-universality of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> within Cartesian thought<\/em><\/strong>. Consciousness, phenomenal presentation, intentional directedness, and even determinately having something as the subject matter of thought do not by themselves confer objective reality. <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">Objective reality<\/a> is present only insofar as a cognition contains a <em>representatum<\/em> with <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective being<\/a>, such as a substance, principal attribute, true and immutable nature or essence, or mode. Other features of the same conscious state can be formally real determinations of thought without themselves being objectively real. The crucial question is therefore not simply whether a mental state qualifies as an <em>idea<\/em>, since Descartes\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad use<\/a> makes that category extremely inclusive. The crucial question is <strong><em>which content within a cognition, if any, is objective-reality-bearing<\/em><\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This point also prevents the distinction between <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad ideas<\/a> from being misconstrued as a division of a single cognition into two numerically distinct ideas. Consider the fear of a lion. There need be only one occurrent mental state, the fear of a lion. Under Descartes\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad use<\/a> of <em>idea<\/em>, that entire conscious state can be called an idea. Insofar as that same state internally represents a lion, however, it also satisfies Descartes\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict use of <em>idea<\/em><\/a> and possesses <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> corresponding to the represented finite substance. Its fearful character does not thereby acquire objective reality. The fearfulness is formally real as a determination of the mental state, while the lion is represented with objective reality. Conversely, a sensation may phenomenally present coolness, pain, color, or some other sensory quality while containing no <em>representatum<\/em> (item represented) that exists objectively in the idea. Its status as a <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad idea<\/a> follows from its being an immediately conscious mode of thought, not from its possessing <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. Thus the broad use of <em>idea<\/em> extends beyond those cognitions in which something has <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective being<\/a> as a <em>representatum<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This distinction has substantial consequences for Descartes\u2019s theory of ideas. Treating <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> as universal across mental content<sup id=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-4\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote modern-footnotes-footnote--hover-on-desktop \" data-mfn=\"4\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000037420000000000000000_46187\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-4\">4<\/a><\/sup><span role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"4\"><span style=\"color:blue\">See my \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/why-objective-reality-cannot-be-descartess-universal-theory-of-thought-burman-common-notions-and-the-collapse-of-the-strict-idea-model\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Why Objective Reality Cannot Be Descartes\u2019s Universal Theory of Thought: Burman, Common Notions, and the Collapse of the Strict-Idea Model<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d<br><br><\/span><\/span> obscures his account of material falsity,<sup id=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-5\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote modern-footnotes-footnote--hover-on-desktop \" data-mfn=\"5\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000037420000000000000000_46187\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-5\">5<\/a><\/sup><span role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"5\"><span style=\"color:blue\">See my \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>How My DTOI Baseline Accounts for the Material Falsity of Secondary Quality Sensations<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d<br><br><\/span><\/span> encourages the conflation of phenomenal presentation with internal representation, and makes his treatment of sensations appear more representationally uniform than the texts warrant.<sup id=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-6\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote modern-footnotes-footnote--hover-on-desktop \" data-mfn=\"6\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000037420000000000000000_46187\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-6\">6<\/a><\/sup><span role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"6\"><span style=\"color:blue\">See my \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/do-cartesian-sensations-have-objective-reality-strict-ideas-broad-ideas-and-material-falsity-in-descartess-theory-of-ideas\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Do Cartesian Sensations Have Objective Reality?: Strict Ideas, Broad Ideas, and Material Falsity in Descartes\u2019s Theory of Ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d<br><br><\/span><\/span> It also misidentifies what matters in the causal argument of the Third Meditation. The relevant causal demand does not arise merely because a conscious state is called an <em>idea<\/em>. It arises when a <em>representatum<\/em> has <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective being<\/a> in an idea and thereby gives that idea a determinate degree of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>, whose ontological rank fixes the minimum <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/containment-eminent-versus-formal\/63FF95E30FEFF51D194BB11C309ADA05\">formal or eminent reality<\/a> Descartes requires of its adequate cause.<sup id=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-7\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote modern-footnotes-footnote--hover-on-desktop \" data-mfn=\"7\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000037420000000000000000_46187\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-7\">7<\/a><\/sup><span role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"7\"><span style=\"color:blue\">See my \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/infinite-objective-reality-in-a-finite-idea-why-should-it-require-an-infinite-cause\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Infinite Objective Reality in a Finite Idea: Why Should It Require an Infinite Cause?<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d<br><br><\/span><\/span> Once <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> is restricted in this way, sensations can remain genuine ideas in Descartes\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad sense<\/a> without the sensory qualities they phenomenally present thereby possessing <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective being<\/a> in the idea, while <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict ideas<\/a> of substances, principal attributes, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/true-and-immutable-nature\/AEAAA9AD6B791448C75976EF6B2C26A5\">true and immutable natures<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/abs\/cambridge-descartes-lexicon\/essence\/659041C5C064AECA2A38A198B037A1AA\">essences<\/a>, and modes contain <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> because their <em>representata<\/em> possess objective being in the intellect at determinate ontological ranks.<sup id=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-8\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote modern-footnotes-footnote--hover-on-desktop \" data-mfn=\"8\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000037420000000000000000_46187\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-8\">8<\/a><\/sup><span role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"8\"><span style=\"color:blue\">See my \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/cartesian-ideas-that-do-or-do-not-contain-objective-reality-representational-content\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Where Objective Reality Occurs in Cartesian Thought: OR-Bearing Representata and Non-OR-Bearing Content<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d<br><br><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The purpose of my post is therefore not primarily to establish that Descartes uses <em>idea<\/em> in <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad<\/a> senses. That ambiguity is already recognized. The more significant thesis is that the extension of <em>idea<\/em> beyond its strict representational use does not carry <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> with it. Descartes\u2019s broad category of conscious thought is more extensive than the domain of objective reality. Recovering that asymmetry provides the <strong><em>conceptual framework<\/em><\/strong> for explaining why only some content within Cartesian cognition is <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality representational content<\/a> (<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">OR<\/a><\/strong>) and for giving a more precise account of representation, sensation, material falsity, and the role of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> throughout Descartes\u2019s theory of ideas (<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\">DTOI<\/a><\/strong>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">Why this key quotation matters in the Third Meditation<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSome of my thoughts are, as it were, the images of things, and it is only in these cases that the term \u2018idea\u2019 is strictly appropriate\u2014for example, when I think of a man, or a chimera, or the sky, or an angel, or God. Other thoughts have various additional forms: thus, when I will, or am afraid, or affirm, or deny, there is always a particular thing which I take as the object of my thought, <strong>but my thought includes something more than the likeness of that thing<\/strong>. Some thoughts in this category are called volitions or emotions, while others are called judgments.\u201d (<em>Meditations on First Philosophy<\/em>, Third Meditation: <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/66\">AT VII 36\u201337<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/25\/mode\/1up\">CSM II, 25\u201326<\/a>; bold not in original)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Quaedam ex meis cogitationibus tanquam rerum imagines esse videntur, quibus solis proprie ideae nomen competit: ut cum hominem, vel Chimaeram, vel Coelum, vel Angelum, vel Deum cogito. Aliae vero alias quasdam formas praeterea habent: ut cum volo, cum timeo, cum affirmo, cum nego, semper quidem aliquam rem ut objectum meae cogitationis apprehendo, sed aliquid etiam amplius quam istius rei similitudinem cogitatio mea continet. Et ex hoc genere cogitationum aliae voluntates, aliae affectus, aliae judicia vocantur<\/em>. (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/66\">AT VII 36\u201337<\/a>):<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The phrase \u201c<em>tanquam rerum imagines<\/em>\u201d (\u201cas if images of things\u201d) carries the famous \u201cas if\u201d [<em>tanquam<\/em>] qualifier that signals Descartes is speaking analogically: <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">ideas in the strict sense<\/a> are <em><strong>like<\/strong><\/em> images, <em>not literally<\/em> pictures in the mind. The \u201cadditional forms\u201d (<em>alias quasdam formas praeterea<\/em>) mark a <strong><em>non-representational<\/em><\/strong> aspect of one and the same thought. Willing, fearing, affirming, and denying are not second ideas added to a first. They are further forms included in a single <em>cogitatio<\/em> that already takes something as its object.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The reasoning can be reconstructed as follows:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">Strict ideas are those thoughts that are \u201cas it were the images of things.\u201d (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/67\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>AT VII 37<\/u><\/span><\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/25\/mode\/1up\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>CSM II, 25<\/u><\/span><\/a>)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">In willing, fearing, affirming, and denying, there remains a \u201cparticular thing\u201d taken as the object of thought. (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/67\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>AT VII 37<\/u><\/span><\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/26\/mode\/1up\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>CSM II, 26<\/u><\/span><\/a>) <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Descartes distinguishes the \u201clikeness of that thing\u201d from the \u201csomething more\u201d included in willing, fearing, affirming, or denying.  (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/67\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>AT VII 37<\/u><\/span><\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/26\/mode\/1up\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>CSM II, 26<\/u><\/span><\/a>)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Objective reality is subsequently attributed to ideas insofar as they represent things, with its degree determined by what is represented: substance, mode or accident, or infinite substance.  (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/70\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>AT VII 40<\/u><\/span><\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/27\/mode\/1up\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>CSM II, 27\u201328<\/u><\/span><\/a>)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Consequently, in a fear of a lion, the lion falls on the \u201clikeness\u201d or thing-representing side of Descartes\u2019s distinction. That is precisely the content to which his ensuing doctrine of objective reality applies.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">The fear itself falls on the other side of the distinction: it is the \u201csomething more\u201d added to the likeness. It is therefore not another likeness of another thing and does not introduce another objectively real <em>representatum<\/em>.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Descartes surgically restricts the term \u2018idea\u2019 <em>strictly<\/em> to those thoughts that possess <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> (<em>internal<\/em> representational content) because \u201cimage-like\u201d thoughts can later be weighed for their degrees of objective perfection and subjected to the <strong>causal adequacy principle<\/strong> (a cause must contain at least as much reality or perfection as it imparts to its effect). In a fear, a volition, an affirmation, or a denial, the additional form of fearing, willing, affirming, or denying is not itself representational. Objective reality, when present, belongs only to the representing aspect of that same thought.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The key quotation foreshadows the later discussion of material falsity (and ideas\/sensations of secondary qualities) and the \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict idea<\/a> model.\u201d Descartes does not limit his use of idea only strictly but often broadens its use to contents of awareness when thinking.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pet.cam.ac.uk\/person\/moriarty\">Michael<\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.mmll.cam.ac.uk\/mm10005\">Moriarty\u2019s<\/a>&nbsp;<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"144\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SIX_66121127-3E71-4CCB-AACA-F9355B663FB5.png 320w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SIX_66121127-3E71-4CCB-AACA-F9355B663FB5-300x288.png 300w\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SIX_66121127-3E71-4CCB-AACA-F9355B663FB5.png\" alt=\"An enhanced colorized photographic headshot cutout of a middle-aged Michael Moriarty, with glasses facing forward and a light tan collared shirt open at his neck, is used to visually identify him.\" loading=\"eager\">&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/personal.lse.ac.uk\/ROBERT49\/teaching\/ph103\/pdf\/Descartes_1641Meditations.pdf\">Oxford World\u2019s Classics translation<\/a>&nbsp;(2008, p. 25) renders the key opening quotation almost identically: \u201csome of my thoughts are as it were the images of things,\u201d preserving the \u201cas it were\u201d and the strict-proper-use of idea. The rest of the paragraph follows the same logical architecture as CSM, though with slightly more contemporary phrasing in the list of \u2018additional forms.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This quotation is foundational for my interpretation. Let me draw out why it\u2019s so damaging to the weaker universal representational thesis that all ideas are representational.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">Descartes\u2019s taxonomy of thought here is tripartite, not merely bipartite (strict or broad ideas):<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"1\" class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Strict representational ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a><\/strong>\u2014ideas strictly so called, or thoughts that are <em>tanquam rerum imagines<\/em>, \u201cas if images of things.\u201d These alone properly bear the name \u201cidea\u201d in Descartes\u2019s <em>narrow<\/em> sense. They contain an internal <em>representatum<\/em> and therefore carry <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>. Examples include the ideas of God, mind, body, extension, triangle, a <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Chimera_(mythology)\">chimera<\/a>, and a particular person or object. <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/66\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>AT VII 36\u201337<\/u><\/span><\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/25\/mode\/1up\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>CSM II 25\u201326<\/u><\/span><\/a>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Simple non-representational presentations<\/strong>\u2014conscious mental modes whose intrinsic phenomenal or affective character is immediately presented to awareness but which contain no internal <em>representatum<\/em> and therefore no <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>. Secondary-quality sensations such as cold, pain, color, sound, taste, and smell belong here on the DTOI interpretation. So may generalized fear, free-floating anxiety, or joy considered simply as felt states, when no determinate object is represented. Such states can still possess phenomenal character, affective directedness, bodily location, practical significance, or external causal relations without internally representing a thing through objective reality.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Object-directed broad-sense thoughts<\/strong>\u2014volitions, emotions, and judgments that are single thoughts with an additional form. A fear of a lion, a willing to raise one\u2019s arm, an affirming that snow is white, and a denying that bodies exist are each one thought, not a pair of ideas. The representing aspect of that thought may be <em>tanquam rerum imago<\/em> and therefore bear <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>. The additional form of fearing, willing, affirming, or denying does not. Descartes accordingly says that such a thought \u201cincludes something more than the likeness of that thing.\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/66\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>AT VII 36\u201337<\/u><\/span><\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/25\/mode\/1up\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>CSM II 25\u201326<\/u><\/span><\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This taxonomy classifies kinds and structures of <em>thought<\/em>, not three coordinate species of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict ideas<\/a>, and not a catalogue in which one mental state is assembled from two ideas. The first category consists of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict ideas<\/a> that contain <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>. The second consists of simple conscious presentations that lack <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> altogether. The third consists of single thoughts that take an object and also include an additional non-representational form.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Descartes is therefore explicitly committed to the claim that not every feature of a thought is representational in the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective-reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>-bearing sense. The act of willing, fearing, affirming, or denying is not itself another image-like representation of the object, and it is not a second idea packed inside the first. It is a further form of one and the same thought. The representing aspect and the additional form must be distinguished even though they are not two ideas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If Descartes already acknowledges a non-representational form within an object-directed thought, then the universal principle that \u201call thought is representational\u201d cannot be extracted from this passage. What the passage supports is a more discriminating account:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">Only <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>strict ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a> are intrinsically representational in the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>objective-reality<\/u><\/span><\/a>-bearing sense.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Some conscious states are simple presentations that lack any internal <em>representatum<\/em> and contain no objective reality.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Other thoughts are object-directed broad-sense ideas: one mental state whose representing aspect may bear objective reality, while the additional form of willing, fearing, affirming, or denying does not.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">That additional form is real and irreducibly non-representational. It does not become a second idea merely because the same thought also represents an object.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A defender of a weaker universal representational thesis might reply: \u201cBut Descartes says that in volitions, emotions, and judgments there is always \u2018a particular thing which I take as the object of my thought.\u2019\u201d In ordinary object-directed cases, that is correct. Fearing a lion, loving a friend, willing to travel to Paris, or affirming that snow is white each takes something as its object. That clause names the object of one thought. It does not introduce a second, numerically distinct <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>strict idea<\/u><\/span><\/a> housed inside a broader state. The internal representation belongs to the representing aspect of that one thought. The fearing, loving, willing, or affirming is an additional form of the same thought, not another representation of the object.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nor should every affective state be forced into this object-directed structure. Generalized fear or free-floating anxiety may be consciously experienced without any determinate object being internally represented. Such a state can still have affective directedness, urgency, bodily phenomenology, or practical significance without containing an objective-reality-bearing idea of some thing feared. This shows why \u201cintentionality\u201d must not simply be equated with the possession of an internal <em>representatum<\/em>. A mental state may be phenomenally or affectively directed without representing a <em>res<\/em> through objective reality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The significance for DTOI is immediate. A secondary-quality sensation need not be analyzed as an object-directed thought that has a representing aspect plus some additional sensory form. If the sensation of cold contains no internal <em>representatum<\/em>\u2014if no substance, quality, nature, or mode is represented within it through objective reality\u2014then it falls outside the strict representational core altogether. It is a simple, formally real mode of mind whose phenomenal character is immediately presented to consciousness without internally representing a thing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DTOI therefore distinguishes three importantly different structures: a <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict idea<\/a> containing objective reality; a simple conscious presentation lacking <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a>; and one object-directed thought that includes both a representing aspect and an additional non-representational form. The deepest dividing line is not between intentional and non-intentional thought in every possible sense of \u201cintentionality.\u201d It is between thoughts that contain an internal <em>representatum<\/em> and thoughts that do not. An object-directed broad-sense idea can stand on both sides of that line only as one thought with two aspects, never as two ideas in one state. A fear of a lion, for example, is one broad-sense idea whose lion-representing aspect bears objective reality while its affective aspect of fear does not.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">See my supporting posts:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"75\" class=\"wp-image-46430\" style=\"width: 100px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-scaled.png\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-scaled.png 2560w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-300x225.png 300w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-1024x768.png 1024w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-150x113.png 150w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-768x576.png 768w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-1536x1152.png 1536w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-2048x1536.png 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\"  loading=\"lazy\"\/>\u201c<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/do-cartesian-sensations-have-objective-reality-strict-ideas-broad-ideas-and-material-falsity-in-descartess-theory-of-ideas\/\">Do Cartesian Sensations Have Objective Reality? Strict Ideas, Broad Ideas, and Material Falsity in Descartes\u2019s Theory of Ideas<\/a><\/strong>\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br>&nbsp;<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"75\" class=\"wp-image-46430\" style=\"width: 100px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-scaled.png\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-scaled.png 2560w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-300x225.png 300w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-1024x768.png 1024w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-150x113.png 150w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-768x576.png 768w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-1536x1152.png 1536w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-2048x1536.png 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\"  loading=\"lazy\"\/>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/\"><strong>How My DTOI Baseline Accounts For The Material Falsity Of Secondary Quality Sensations<\/strong><\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"75\" class=\"wp-image-46430\" style=\"width: 100px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-scaled.png\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-scaled.png 2560w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-300x225.png 300w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-1024x768.png 1024w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-150x113.png 150w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-768x576.png 768w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-1536x1152.png 1536w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-2048x1536.png 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\"  loading=\"lazy\"\/><strong>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/chatgpt-4-0-april-2023-version\/\">Convincing ChatGPT 4.0 (April 2023 version) that Cartesian secondary quality sensations (SQS) have no objectively real mental content \u2013 (Maybe it will convince you, too!)<\/a>\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"75\" class=\"wp-image-46430\" style=\"width: 100px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-scaled.png\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-scaled.png 2560w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-300x225.png 300w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-1024x768.png 1024w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-150x113.png 150w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-768x576.png 768w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-1536x1152.png 1536w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-2048x1536.png 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\"  loading=\"lazy\"\/><strong>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/convincing-anthropcs-claude-ai-that-cartesian-sensations-lack-objective-reality\/\">Convincing Anthropic\u2019s Claude.ai that Cartesian sensations lack objective reality<\/a>\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"75\" class=\"wp-image-46430\" style=\"width: 100px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-scaled.png\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-scaled.png 2560w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-300x225.png 300w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-1024x768.png 1024w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-150x113.png 150w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-768x576.png 768w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-1536x1152.png 1536w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3140-2048x1536.png 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\"  loading=\"lazy\"\/><strong>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/material-falsity\/conversation-on-the-material-falsity-of-ideas-with-chatgpt-4-0-april-2023-version\/\">Conversation on representation &amp; the material falsity of ideas with ChatGPT 4.0 (April 2023 version)<\/a>\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So the passage does double work for my interpretation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><strong>First<\/strong>, it shows Descartes himself restricting \u201cidea\u201d in the proper sense to representational, objective-reality-bearing thoughts\u2014that is, to thoughts containing an internal <em>representatum<\/em>\u2014which directly undermines any universalizing reading.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><strong>Second<\/strong>, it establishes a precedent for conscious mental states that lack any internal <em>representatum<\/em> within Descartes\u2019s own framework, making it far less surprising that secondary-quality sensations, common notions, and the idea of nothing should likewise fall outside the objective-reality-bearing representational apparatus.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The weaker thesis\u2014that all Cartesian ideas intrinsically contain objective reality or an internal <em>representatum<\/em>\u2014cannot survive a careful reading of this passage. At the very outset of the Third Meditation, Descartes distinguishes the field of thought from the field of <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict ideas<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">Strict ideas<\/a> alone carry the representational weight of objective reality. Other conscious modes either lack an internal <em>representatum<\/em> altogether or are single thoughts whose representing aspect may bear objective reality while an additional form of willing, fearing, affirming, or denying does not.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"916\" class=\"wp-image-46541\" style=\"width: 1200px;\" src=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3493.png\" alt=\"The AI-generated image by Nano Banana Pro shows a transparent glass head containing a brain and a portrait of Descartes, surrounded by ethereal hands and figures, with books, a quill, inkwell, and scales of justice on the desk, along with the URL https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas at the bottom.\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3493.png 1026w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3493-300x229.png 300w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3493-1024x781.png 1024w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3493-150x114.png 150w, https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/IMG_3493-768x586.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\"  loading=\"eager\"\/><\/p>\n\n\n<p><!-- DTOI WordPress HTML fragment: Descartes on strict-sense and broad-sense ideas --><\/p>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<h3 style=\"color: #0b2f4d;\">A. <span style=\"color: #ff00ff;\">Strict-sense ideas: <em>tanquam rerum imagines<\/em><\/span><\/h3>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<p>The canonical <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color: blue;\"><u>strict-sense<\/u><\/span><\/a> passage is <em>Meditation III<\/em>, where Descartes distinguishes those thoughts that are, as it were, images of things from volitions, emotions, and judgments.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201cSome of my thoughts are, as it were, the images of things\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cit is only in these cases that the term \u2018idea\u2019 is strictly appropriate\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cwhen I think of a man, or a chimera, or the sky, or an angel, or God.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> Meditation III, <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/66\">AT VII 36\u201337<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/25\/mode\/1up\">CSM II 25\u201326<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201c<em>Quaedam ex his tanquam rerum imagines sunt, quibus solis proprie convenit ideae nomen<\/em>\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> Meditation III, <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/66\">AT VII 37<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The immediately following contrast is crucial, because Descartes includes willing, fearing, affirming, and denying among thoughts, but not among ideas in this strict representational sense.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201cOther thoughts have various additional forms\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cwhen I will, or am afraid, or affirm, or deny\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cmy thought includes something more than the likeness of that thing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> Meditation III, <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/66\">AT VII 36\u201337<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/25\/mode\/1up\">CSM II 25\u201326<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201c<em>Aliae ver\u00f2 alias quasdam praeterea formas habent<\/em>\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<em>ut, c\u00f9m volo, c\u00f9m timeo, c\u00f9m affirmo, c\u00f9m nego<\/em>\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thelatinlibrary.com\/descartes\/des.med3.shtml\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Meditation III, AT VII 37<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This is the strongest textual basis for saying that, strictly, ideas are those thoughts that function as likenesses or quasi-images of things: man, chimera, sky, angel, and God. The relevant strictness is representational or object-presenting, not imagistic in the corporeal-phantasm sense.<\/p>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<h3 style=\"color: #0b2f4d;\">B. <span style=\"color: #ff00ff;\">Objective-content sense: idea as the thing thought of objectively<\/span><\/h3>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<p>A second passage does not use the word \u201cstrictly,\u201d but it is central for the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color: blue;\"><u>strict representational<\/u><\/span><\/a>\/objective-content sense of idea.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201can idea is the thing which is thought of in so far as it has objective being in the intellect\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cthe idea of the sun is the sun itself existing in the intellect\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cnot of course formally existing\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cbut objectively existing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/pdfcoffee.com\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-volume-2-pdf-free.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">First Replies, AT VII 102\u2013103; CSM II 74\u201375<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201c<em>objectiv\u00e8 in intellectu<\/em>\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/pdfcoffee.com\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-volume-2-pdf-free.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">First Replies, AT VII 102\u2013103; CSM II 74\u201375<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This is not the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad<\/a> \u201cany conscious mental act\u201d sense. It is the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective-being<\/a> sense: the idea is considered as the thing represented or intentionally present in the intellect.<\/p>\n<p>Another place where Descartes appears to imply that all ideas are representational is in his <span class=\"s1\"><em>Fifth Set of Replies<\/em>, where he states:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u201c<em><strong>An idea represents the essence of a thing<\/strong><\/em>, and if anything is added to or taken away <\/span><span class=\"s1\">from the essence, then the idea automatically becomes the idea of something else. This I<\/span><span class=\"s1\">s how the ideas of Pandora and of all false Gods are formed by those who do not have a <\/span><span class=\"s1\">correct conception of the true God.\u201d (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/401\">AT VII 371<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/256\/mode\/1up\">CSM II 256<\/a>; bold italic not in original)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>My interpretation is that in this context, Descartes was only talking about all strict ideas that are <em>tanquam rerum imagines <\/em>(as if an image) as representing essences, but not of all ideas <em>generally speaking<\/em> where we include his use of broad sense ideas as characterized below.<\/p>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<h3 style=\"color: #0b2f4d;\">C. <span style=\"color: #3366ff;\">Broad-sense ideas: idea as form of any thought<\/span><\/h3>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<p>The broadest formal definition occurs in the geometrical exposition appended to the <em>Second Replies<\/em>.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201c<strong>Thought<\/strong>. I use this term to include everything that is within us in such a way that we are immediately aware of it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201call the operations of the will, the intellect, the imagination and the senses are thoughts.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<strong>Idea<\/strong>. By the term \u2018idea\u2019 I understand that form of any thought by the immediate perception of which I am conscious of that very thought.\u201d [\u201c<em>Ideae nomine intelligo cujuslibet cogitationis formam illam, per cujus immediatam perceptionem ipsius ejusdem cogitationis conscius sum<\/em>.\u201d]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/pdfcoffee.com\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-volume-2-pdf-free.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Second Replies, geometrical exposition, Definitions I\u2013II, AT VII 160\u2013161; CSM II 113\u2013114<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201cThus it is not only the images depicted in the imagination which I call \u2018ideas\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI call them \u2018ideas\u2019 only in so far as they give form to the mind itself.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/pdfcoffee.com\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-volume-2-pdf-free.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Second Replies, geometrical exposition, Definition II, AT VII 160\u2013161; CSM II 113\u2013114<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201c<em>forma cujuslibet cogitationis<\/em>\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/pdfcoffee.com\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-volume-2-pdf-free.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Second Replies, geometrical exposition, Definition II, AT VII 160\u2013161; CSM II 113\u2013114<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This is the most important <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad-sense<\/a> definition: since thought includes will, intellect, imagination, and sense, and idea is the form of any given thought, \u201cidea\u201d is here extended beyond strict representational <em>rerum imagines<\/em>.<\/p>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<h3 style=\"color: #0b2f4d;\">D. <span style=\"color: #3366ff;\">Broad-sense ideas: volition and fear counted among ideas<\/span><\/h3>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<p>The most explicit <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad-sense<\/a> reply to Hobbes is in the <em>Third Replies<\/em>.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201cI am taking the word \u2018idea\u2019 to refer to whatever is immediately perceived by the mind.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cwhen I want something, or am afraid of something\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI count volition and fear among my ideas.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/pdfcoffee.com\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-volume-2-pdf-free.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Third Replies, reply to Hobbes\u2019s Fifth Objection, AT VII 181; CSM II 127\u2013128<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This is the decisive passage for <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad-sense ideas<\/a> as objects or forms of consciousness. It confirms that willing and fearing can be counted as ideas without implying that they are ideas in the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict<\/a> <em>tanquam rerum imagines<\/em> sense.<\/p>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<h3 style=\"color: #0b2f4d;\">E. <span style=\"color: #3366ff;\">Broad-sense ideas: ideas in the will, not merely in the intellect<\/span><\/h3>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<p>Descartes also makes clear in correspondence that \u201cidea\u201d extends to the will as well as to the intellect.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201cwe have ideas not only of all that is in our intellect, but also of all that is in the will.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cwe cannot will anything without knowing that we will it\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI do not claim that the idea is different from the act itself.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/stream\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-3\/The%20Philosophical%20Writings%20of%20Descartes%20V3_djvu.txt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Letter to Mersenne, 28 January 1641, AT III 295; CSMK 172<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This is extremely important for the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad-sense<\/a> doctrine. The \u201cidea\u201d of willing is not a second mental object hovering over the volition; Descartes explicitly allows the idea not to be different from the act itself.<\/p>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<h3 style=\"color: #0b2f4d;\">F. <span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">Broad-sense ideas<\/a>: anything established by reasoning or perceived in any manner<\/span><\/h3>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<p>Descartes extends the term \u201cidea\u201d to what is perceived in any manner whatsoever, including what is established by reasoning.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201cI use the term \u2018idea\u2019 to apply to what is established by reasoning\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cas well as anything else that is perceived in any manner whatsoever.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/pdfcoffee.com\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-volume-2-pdf-free.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Third Replies, reply to Hobbes\u2019s Ninth Objection, AT VII 185; CSM II 130<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201cby an \u2018idea\u2019 I mean whatever is the form of a given perception.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/pdfcoffee.com\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-volume-2-pdf-free.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Third Replies, AT VII 188; CSM II 132<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This is even broader than the will\/fear passage, since it includes what is established by reasoning, not only what is imagined or sensed.<\/p>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<h3 style=\"color: #0b2f4d;\">G. <span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">Broad-sense ideas<\/a>: correspondence with Mersenne<\/span><\/h3>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<p>Descartes\u2019s correspondence with Mersenne also confirms that \u201cidea\u201d can be used in a <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad sense<\/a> for <b>whatever can be in thought or in the mind when conceiving<\/b>.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201cI use the word \u2018idea\u2019 <b>to mean everything which can be in our thought<\/b>, and I <b>distinguish three kinds<\/b>. \u2018Some are adventitious\u2019, such as the idea we commonly have of the sun; \u2018others are constructed or made up\u2019, in which class we can put the idea which the astronomers construct of the sun by their reasoning; and \u2018others are innate, such as the idea of God, mind, body, triangle, and in general all those which represent true, immutable and eternal essences.\u201c (bold not in original)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/stream\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-3\/The%20Philosophical%20Writings%20of%20Descartes%20V3_djvu.txt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Letter to Mersenne, 16 June 1641, AT III 383; CSMK 183<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201cby \u2018idea\u2019 I do not just mean the images depicted in the imagination\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI mean in general everything which is in our mind when we conceive something\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cno matter how we conceive it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/stream\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-3\/The%20Philosophical%20Writings%20of%20Descartes%20V3_djvu.txt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Letter to Mersenne, July 1641, AT III 393; CSMK 185<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The July 1641 letter is one of the clearest <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad-sense<\/a> texts because it explicitly contrasts ideas with images depicted in the imagination and extends \u201cidea\u201d to what is in the mind when conceiving, regardless of manner.<\/p>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<h3 style=\"color: #0b2f4d;\">H. <span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">Broad-sense ideas<\/a>: \u201c<i>any object of thought<\/i>\u201d<\/span><\/h3>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<p>The <em>Fifth Replies<\/em> contains one of Descartes\u2019s most compact <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad-sense<\/a> formulations.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201cyou restrict the term \u2018idea\u2019 to images depicted in the imagination\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cwhereas I extend it to cover any object of thought.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> Fifth Replies, <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/396\">AT VII 366\u201367<\/a>; CSM II 253.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This formulation sharply opposes the restriction of ideas to corporeal images in the imagination. It supports the broad reading: idea = object of thought, not merely image in phantasia.<\/p>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<h3 style=\"color: #0b2f4d;\">I. <span style=\"color: #993366;\">Material\/objective ambiguity in \u201cidea\u201d<\/span><\/h3>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<p>The <em>Preface to the Reader<\/em> introduces a different but related distinction: idea taken materially as an operation of the intellect versus idea taken objectively as the thing represented by that operation.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"border-left: 4px solid #0b2f4d; margin: 20px 0; padding: 12px 18px; background: #f5f7fa;\">\n<p>\u201c\u2018Idea\u2019 can be taken materially, as an operation of the intellect\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAlternatively, it can be taken objectively, as the thing represented by that operation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong> Preface to the Reader, AT VII 8; CSM II 7.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This passage should not be collapsed into the strict\/broad distinction. It is a different distinction: idea taken materially as an operation of thought versus idea taken objectively as the thing represented by that operation. But it is relevant because it explains why Descartes can move between idea-as-act and idea-as-represented-content without simply equivocating.<\/p>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<h3 style=\"color: #0b2f4d;\">J. <span style=\"color: #800080;\">Best classification<\/span><\/h3>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<table style=\"border-collapse: collapse; width: 100%; margin: 20px 0;\">\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px; background: #e8eef5;\"><span style=\"color: #800080;\">Sense of \u201cidea\u201d<\/span><\/th>\n<th style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px; background: #e8eef5;\"><span style=\"color: #339966;\">Core formula<\/span><\/th>\n<th style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px; background: #e8eef5;\"><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">Main references<\/span><\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><strong>Strict sense<\/strong><\/a><\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\">Thought \u201cas if the image of a thing\u201d<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/pdfcoffee.com\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-volume-2-pdf-free.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Meditation III, <\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/66\">AT VII 36\u201337<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/pdfcoffee.com\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-volume-2-pdf-free.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">; CSM II 25\u201326<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><strong>Objective-content sense<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\">Thing thought of insofar as it has <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective being<\/a> in the intellect<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><em>First Replies<\/em>, AT VII 102\u2013103; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/74\/mode\/1up\">CSM II 74\u201375<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><strong>Broad formal sense<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\">Form of any given thought<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><i>Second Replies<\/i>, AT VII 160\u2013161; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/113\/mode\/1up\">CSM II 113\u201314<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><strong>Broad consciousness sense<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\">Whatever is immediately perceived by the mind<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/pdfcoffee.com\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-volume-2-pdf-free.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>Third Replies<\/i>, AT VII 181; CSM II 127\u2013128<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><strong>Broad volitional sense<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\">Ideas of what is in the will; idea not different from the act<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/stream\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-3\/The%20Philosophical%20Writings%20of%20Descartes%20V3_djvu.txt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Letter to Mersenne, 28 January 1641, AT III 295; CSMK 172<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><strong>Broad conception sense<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\">Everything in the mind when conceiving, however conceived<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/stream\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-3\/The%20Philosophical%20Writings%20of%20Descartes%20V3_djvu.txt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Letter to Mersenne, July 1641, AT III 393; CSMK 185<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><strong>Broad object-of-thought sense<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\">Any object of thought<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #999; padding: 8px;\"><span style=\"color: blue;\"><u><em>Fifth Replies<\/em>, <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/396\">AT VII 366\u201367<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/253\/mode\/1up\">CSM II 253<\/a><\/u><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<div style=\"height: 20px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<h3 style=\"color: #0b2f4d;\">K. <span style=\"color: #333399;\">Interpretive conclusion<\/span><\/h3>\n<div style=\"height: 30px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\"> <\/div>\n<p>The best interpretation is that Descartes has a privileged <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color: blue;\"><u>strict sense of idea<\/u><\/span><\/a> in which \u201cidea\u201d applies to thought insofar as it internally represents something as its object, but also a <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broader<\/a> technical use in which \u201cidea\u201d can apply to the complete conscious mental state, including volitions, fears, sensory perceptions, and items grasped by reasoning.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><span style=\"color: blue;\"><u>strict sense<\/u><\/span><\/a> is needed for <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objective reality<\/a> and the causal argument. The <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad sense<\/a> is needed for Descartes\u2019s ontology of thought and for his anti-Hobbesian insistence that ideas are not merely corporeal images. The distinction does not require two numerically distinct ideas within a single conscious state. A broad-sense idea can be one mental state with both an OR-bearing representational aspect and another formally real but non-OR-bearing aspect.<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Descartes uses <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\"><em>idea<\/em> in a broad sense<\/a> to cover conscious modes of thought. Within that broad use, three importantly different cases should be distinguished.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\"><strong>Purely strict ideas<\/strong> contain objective reality.<\/mark><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These are broad-sense ideas, but they are also ideas in Descartes\u2019s strict sense. The mental state internally represents a <em>representatum<\/em>\u2014a substance, mode, or true and immutable nature of a possible substance or mode\u2014and its relevant representational content is therefore constituted by objective reality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Examples include:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">the idea of God,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">the idea of body,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">the idea of a triangle,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">the idea of extension,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">the idea of a determinate mode such as motion.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"2\" class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\"><strong>Broad-sense thoughts with an OR-bearing representational aspect<\/strong> contain objective reality with respect to that aspect.<\/mark><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Many conscious acts are single mental states whose character is not exhausted by objective reality representational content. The same mental state can internally represent something as its object while also possessing an assertoric, volitional, affective, or other formally real character that does not itself bear objective reality. There is no need to posit a second, numerically distinct strict idea contained within the broader state.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For example:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">affirming that the triangle has three angles,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">willing to obtain food,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">fearing an approaching lion,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">judging that the body is extended.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here the <strong>affirming<\/strong>, <strong>willing<\/strong>, <strong>fearing<\/strong>, or <strong>judging<\/strong> character of the mental state does not itself contribute objective reality. The objective reality belongs to the aspect of the same state in virtue of which something is internally represented as its object. A fear of a lion, for example, is one broad-sense idea with an OR-bearing lion-representing aspect and a non-OR-bearing affective aspect of fear.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Thus a broad-sense thought can contain objective reality without containing a second idea as one of its constituents. It contains objective reality insofar as that one mental state has an OR-bearing representational aspect.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"3\" class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\"><strong>Broad-sense thoughts without an OR-bearing representational aspect<\/strong> contain no objective reality.<\/mark><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These are cases in which the mental state has no aspect in virtue of which a substance, mode, or true and immutable nature is internally represented as its <em>representatum<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the DTOI account these include:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">the mere sensation of cold, considered simply with respect to its phenomenal coldness,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">pain merely felt,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">generalized fear without an internally represented object,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">willing considered solely with respect to its volitional character,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">affirming or denying considered solely with respect to their assertoric character,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">comparative notions such as <em>largest<\/em> or <em>smallest<\/em>,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">second-order predicable roles such as <em>genus<\/em> and <em>species<\/em>,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">the notion of <em>nothing<\/em>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These are genuine conscious modes or aspects of thought with formal reality, but they contain no objective reality insofar as no substance, mode, or true and immutable nature is internally represented through them as a <em>representatum<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The crucial point is that <strong>\u201cbroad-sense idea\u201d and \u201cobjective reality\u201d do not coincide<\/strong>. The broad use of \u201cidea\u201d extends beyond purely strict ideas and beyond mental states whose entire character consists in OR-bearing representation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A useful way to express the relationship is:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table class=\"has-fixed-layout\"><tbody><tr><td><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">Broad-sense thought<\/mark><\/strong><\/td><td><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Contains objective reality?<\/mark><\/strong><\/td><td><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">Why?<\/mark><\/strong><\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Purely strict idea<\/td><td><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\"><strong>Yes<\/strong><\/mark><\/td><td>The mental state internally represents a <em>representatum<\/em>, and its relevant representational content is constituted by objective reality.<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Broad-sense thought with an OR-bearing representational aspect, such as fear of a lion<\/td><td><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">Yes, with respect to that aspect<\/mark><\/strong><\/td><td>The one mental state internally represents something as its object in one respect while also possessing a formally real non-OR-bearing affective, volitional, assertoric, or other character.<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Broad-sense thought without an OR-bearing representational aspect<\/td><td><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">No<\/mark><\/strong><\/td><td>No substance, mode, or true and immutable nature is internally represented as a <em>representatum<\/em>.<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This distinction is one of the central advantages of the Restriction Thesis. It preserves Descartes\u2019s broad use of <em>idea<\/em> for conscious thoughts while denying that <strong>every<\/strong> broad-sense idea contains objective reality. Objective reality is instead restricted to the aspect of thought in virtue of which the mind internally represents something as its <em>representatum<\/em>. Some broad-sense thoughts are purely strict ideas whose relevant content is OR-bearing representation. Others, such as a fear of a lion, are single mental states with both an OR-bearing representational aspect and a non-OR-bearing affective, volitional, assertoric, or other aspect. Still others have no OR-bearing representational aspect at all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n<table style=\"border-collapse: collapse; width: 100%; margin: 20px 0; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 1.5;\">\n<caption style=\"caption-side: top; text-align: left; font-weight: 600; font-size: 1.1em; margin-bottom: 12px; color: #1a365d;\">Mapping of Examples in Descartes\u2019s Philosophy: Ontological Status, <em>Ens Rationis<\/em> Alignment, Objective Reality, and Citations<br \/><span style=\"font-weight: 400; font-size: 0.9em;\">(Context: DTOI analyses and the Restriction Thesis \u2014 objective reality is not a universal theory of ideas)<\/span><\/caption>\n<thead>\n<tr style=\"background-color: #1a365d; color: white;\">\n<th style=\"border: 1px solid #1a365d; padding: 10px 8px; text-align: left; font-weight: 600;\">Example \/ Item<\/th>\n<th style=\"border: 1px solid #1a365d; padding: 10px 8px; text-align: left; font-weight: 600;\">Ontological Status (Descartes\u2019s Framework)<\/th>\n<th style=\"border: 1px solid #1a365d; padding: 10px 8px; text-align: left; font-weight: 600;\"><em>Ens Rationis<\/em> Alignment<\/th>\n<th style=\"border: 1px solid #1a365d; padding: 10px 8px; text-align: left; font-weight: 600;\">Objective Reality Level<\/th>\n<th style=\"border: 1px solid #1a365d; padding: 10px 8px; text-align: left; font-weight: 600;\">Key Citations (AT \/ CSM)<\/th>\n<th style=\"border: 1px solid #1a365d; padding: 10px 8px; text-align: left; font-weight: 600;\">DTOI \/ Restriction Thesis Notes<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr style=\"background-color: #f8fafc;\">\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><strong>Ideas of privations \/ negations<\/strong><br \/>(e.g., cold as privation of heat; darkness; idea of nothing\/non-being)<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Privative or negative ideas; represent \u201cwhat is nothing as if it were something\u201d; arise from deficiency in the mind or lack of positive cause<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><strong>Strongly aligned<\/strong> (classic limit case)<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">None; can be materially false if believed to exist<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Third Meditation, AT VII 43\u201344 \/ CSM II 29\u201330<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Core counterexamples where OR apparatus reaches its limit. Ideas represent non-things as things. Aligns with Restriction Thesis: OR non-existent for privative\/non-representational contents.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><strong>Universals and abstract concepts considered generally<\/strong><br \/>(e.g., \u201cman\u201d in general; number-in-general; duration as universal)<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><em>Modi cogitandi<\/em> (modes of thinking); intellectual abstractions or instruments of thought, not independent real things outside the mind<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><strong>Yes<\/strong> (when considered abstractly\/in general)<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">No independent ranked OR (OR apparatus falls silent per I.58)<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><em>Principles of Philosophy<\/em> I.58\u201359, AT VIIIA 27\u201328 \/ CSM I 212\u2013213<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Directly supports DTOI baseline: universals as <em>modi cogitandi<\/em> without independent OR rank. <em>Principles<\/em> I.58 explicitly treats <em>alia omnia, quae universalia vocamus<\/em> as modes of thinking when considered in general.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"background-color: #f8fafc;\">\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><strong>Common notions \/ axioms and many eternal truths as principles<\/strong><br \/>(e.g., <em>ex nihilo, nihil fit<\/em> \/ \u201cfrom nothing, nothing comes\u201d; \u201cnothing has no attributes\u201d)<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Positive principles of thought or intelligible truth-contents; innate or known by natural light; structure reasoning rather than represent ranked <em>res<\/em><\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><strong>No<\/strong> (positive truths\/principles, not entities or privations)<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">N\/A or restricted; they are not ranked <em>representata<\/em> on the ontological hierarchy<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Implicit\/presupposed in causal reasoning (Third Meditation, AT VII 40\u201341 \/ CSM II 28); substance-attribute discussions (<em>Principles<\/em>); axioms in Second Replies, AT VII 145\u2013146 \/ CSM II 104\u2013105<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Decisive in Restriction Thesis: these function as <em>modi cogitandi<\/em> or structural eternal truths where strict OR ranking does not apply. <em>Ex nihilo, nihil fit<\/em> is a foundational common notion used in causal arguments, not a being of reason.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><strong>True-and-immutable natures \/ geometrical essences<\/strong><br \/>(e.g., triangle with its determinate properties such as angles summing to 180\u00b0)<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Determinate natures\/essences with immutable properties; not invented by the finite mind; grounded in God\u2019s creation of eternal truths<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><strong>No<\/strong> (positive, non-invented content with genuine foundation)<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Positive objective reality; represent ranked natures\/essences<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Fifth Meditation, AT VII 64\u201365 \/ CSM II 44\u201345<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Belong in the OR-bearing class of ranked representational content (alongside substances and modes). Distinct from Table 2 <em>modi cogitandi<\/em> items. Ideas of them are not materially false.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"background-color: #f8fafc;\">\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><strong>Positive ideas of ranked <em>res<\/em><\/strong><br \/>(e.g., idea of God; idea of finite substance; idea of a particular mode such as shape)<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Represent real substances or modes that possess formal reality (or eminent containment)<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><strong>No<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Full ranked objective reality (infinite substance &gt; finite substance &gt; mode)<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Third Meditation (causal adequacy principle), AT VII 40\u201342 \/ CSM II 28\u201329; <em>Principles<\/em> I.51\u201353, AT VIIIA 24\u201325 \/ CSM I 210\u2013211<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Core domain where Descartes\u2019s OR framework succeeds as a theory of ranked representational content.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><strong>Real modes inhering in substances<\/strong><br \/>(e.g., particular shape or motion of a body) vs. denied Scholastic \u201creal qualities\u201d<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Real modifications of substance (<em>entia realia<\/em> or modes); not mere conceptual items<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><strong>No<\/strong> (real beings\/modes, not <em>ens rationis<\/em>)<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Inherit positive reality from the substance they modify<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\"><em>Principles<\/em> I.53, I.61\u201362 (distinctions of reason vs. real), AT VIIIA 25, 29\u201330 \/ CSM I 210\u2013211, 214<\/td>\n<td style=\"border: 1px solid #cbd5e1; padding: 10px 8px; vertical-align: top;\">Descartes reduces what Scholastics treated as real qualities (accidents in the category of quality) to modes of extension or ideas\/sensations in the mind. Menn\u2019s footnote highlights that mere <em>ens rationis<\/em> cannot belong to categories of being such as quality.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n<div style=\"height:100px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">Conclusions<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The distinction between <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad ideas<\/a> is not a peripheral terminological refinement but <strong><em>one of the organizing principles<\/em><\/strong> of Descartes\u2019s theory of thought. Once this distinction is consistently maintained, numerous interpretive controversies assume a different shape. The <strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">central question<\/mark><\/strong> is no longer whether every Cartesian idea is representational, but which conscious states actually contain an internal <em>representatum<\/em> and therefore possess objective reality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">According to my DTOI interpretation, only <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">strict ideas<\/a> satisfy that condition. They internally represent substances, attributes, true and immutable natures or essences, and modes, thereby supplying the <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">objectively real representational content<\/a> required for Descartes\u2019s causal analysis of ideas. When that representing function occurs in an object-directed broad-sense thought, such as a fear of a lion, objective reality belongs to the representing aspect of the same thought, not to a second idea. The additional form of fearing, willing, or affirming does not itself bear objective reality. Other <a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/#glossary\">broad ideas<\/a>, including many sensations and objectless affective states, contain no internally represented object at all. Their phenomenological content is formally real as a mode of thinking, but it is not objectively real representational content.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This distinction also explains why sensations can be vivid, conscious, practically indispensable, and even clear and distinct when considered merely as sensations without becoming internally representational ideas.<sup id=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-9\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote modern-footnotes-footnote--hover-on-desktop \" data-mfn=\"9\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000037420000000000000000_46187\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-9\">9<\/a><\/sup><span role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"9\"><span style=\"color:blue\">See my posts:<br>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/the-core-dtoi-argument-sensations-without-cartesian-objective-reality\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>The Core DTOI Argument: Sensations Without Cartesian Objective Reality<\/u><\/span>,<\/a>\u201d<br>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/why-there-are-no-successful-candidates-for-sq-sensations-objective-reality-content\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Why There Are No Successful Candidates For SQ-Sensations Objective Reality Content<\/u><\/span><\/a>,\u201d<br>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/do-cartesian-sensations-have-objective-reality-strict-ideas-broad-ideas-and-material-falsity-in-descartess-theory-of-ideas\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Do Cartesian Sensations Have Objective Reality?: Strict Ideas, Broad Ideas, And Material Falsity In Descartes\u2019s Theory Of Ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a>,\u201d and <br>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>How My DTOI Baseline Accounts For The Material Falsity Of Secondary Quality Sensations<\/u><\/span><\/a>\u201d to name a few.<\/span><br><br><br><br><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Their epistemic role is fundamentally different from that of strict ideas. Rather than presenting essences or natures through objective reality, they function primarily within the economy of the embodied mind, guiding action and preserving the human composite while remaining fully compatible with Descartes\u2019s causal and metaphysical doctrines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The wider consequence is methodological. Discussions of objective reality, material falsity, sensory representation, universals, impossible objects, and the causal adequacy principle all depend upon first identifying whether the mental state under consideration belongs to the strict or the broad sense of <em>idea<\/em>. Without that preliminary distinction, Descartes\u2019s terminology appears inconsistent and his theory fragmented. With it, the various components of his theory of ideas become mutually reinforcing parts of a unified philosophical framework, one in which objective reality is properly restricted to internally representational ideas while the broader domain of conscious thought retains its own distinctive functions without being forced into an inappropriate representational model.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-purple-color\">NOTES<\/mark><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n<ul class=\"modern-footnotes-list \"><li id=\"footnote-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-1\"><span>1<\/span><div><span style=\"color:blue\">Descartes explicitly acknowledges the equivocal use of <em>idea<\/em> in the <em>Preface to the Reader<\/em>: \u201cI answer that the term \u2018idea\u2019 here is ambiguous. It can be taken either in the material sense, as an operation of the understanding, in which case it cannot be said to be more perfect than myself, or objectively, for the thing represented by this operation; and this thing, even if it is not supposed to exist outside my understanding, can nonetheless be more perfect than me in virtue of its essence.\u201d (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Page:Descartes_-_%C5%92uvres,_%C3%A9d._Adam_et_Tannery,_VII.djvu\/38\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>AT VII 8<\/u><\/span><\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/the-philosophical-writings-of-descartes-v-2\/page\/7\/mode\/1up\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>CSM II 7<\/u><\/span><\/a>)<\/span> <a href=\"#mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-1\" class=\"modern-footnotes-scroll-to-footnote\" aria-label=\"Back to reference 1 in text\">\u21a9\ufe0e<\/a><\/div><\/li><li id=\"footnote-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-2\"><span>2<\/span><div><span style=\"color:blue\">For a clear contemporary recognition of these different uses, see Kurt Smith, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/archives\/fall2025\/entries\/descartes-ideas\/#IdeUndModThi\">Descartes\u2019 Theory of Ideas<\/a>,\u201d in <em>The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy<\/em>, Fall 2025 ed., ed. Edward N. Zalta and Uri Nodelman (Metaphysics Research Lab, Stanford University, 2025), especially <a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/archives\/fall2025\/entries\/descartes-ideas\/#thoughts\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>\u00a71, \u201cIdeas Understood as Modes of Thinking\u201d<\/u><\/span><\/a>. Smith discusses both Descartes\u2019s strict application of <em>idea<\/em> to thoughts that are <em>tanquam rerum imagines<\/em> and his broader formulations according to which an idea is whatever is immediately perceived by the mind. The interpretation defended here therefore does not claim that the strict and broad uses of <em>idea<\/em> have gone unnoticed. The point of departure comes instead with the status of objective reality. In <a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/archives\/fall2025\/entries\/descartes-ideas\/#ideasmodes\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>\u00a72, \u201cIdeas and the Formal-Objective Reality Distinction\u201d<\/u><\/span><\/a>, Smith states that ideas possess objective reality \u201cby their very nature.\u201d The present interpretation rejects that unrestricted conclusion and argues that objective reality belongs only to the content whereby a cognition internally represents a <em>representatum<\/em>.<\/span><br><br> <a href=\"#mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-2\" class=\"modern-footnotes-scroll-to-footnote\" aria-label=\"Back to reference 2 in text\">\u21a9\ufe0e<\/a><\/div><\/li><li id=\"footnote-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-3\"><span>3<\/span><div><span style=\"color:blue\">For a comparison of prominent interpretations of Cartesian ideas and objective reality, see my \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/condensation-why-objective-reality-cannot-be-descartess-theory-of-thought-burman-common-notions-and-the-failure-of-the-strict-idea-model\/#TableOfCartesianCommentators\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Table of Cartesian Commentators on the Status of Ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d<\/span><br><br> <a href=\"#mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-3\" class=\"modern-footnotes-scroll-to-footnote\" aria-label=\"Back to reference 3 in text\">\u21a9\ufe0e<\/a><\/div><\/li><li id=\"footnote-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-4\"><span>4<\/span><div><span style=\"color:blue\">See my \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/why-objective-reality-cannot-be-descartess-universal-theory-of-thought-burman-common-notions-and-the-collapse-of-the-strict-idea-model\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Why Objective Reality Cannot Be Descartes\u2019s Universal Theory of Thought: Burman, Common Notions, and the Collapse of the Strict-Idea Model<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d<br><br><\/span> <a href=\"#mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-4\" class=\"modern-footnotes-scroll-to-footnote\" aria-label=\"Back to reference 4 in text\">\u21a9\ufe0e<\/a><\/div><\/li><li id=\"footnote-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-5\"><span>5<\/span><div><span style=\"color:blue\">See my \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>How My DTOI Baseline Accounts for the Material Falsity of Secondary Quality Sensations<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d<br><br><\/span> <a href=\"#mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-5\" class=\"modern-footnotes-scroll-to-footnote\" aria-label=\"Back to reference 5 in text\">\u21a9\ufe0e<\/a><\/div><\/li><li id=\"footnote-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-6\"><span>6<\/span><div><span style=\"color:blue\">See my \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/do-cartesian-sensations-have-objective-reality-strict-ideas-broad-ideas-and-material-falsity-in-descartess-theory-of-ideas\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Do Cartesian Sensations Have Objective Reality?: Strict Ideas, Broad Ideas, and Material Falsity in Descartes\u2019s Theory of Ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d<br><br><\/span> <a href=\"#mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-6\" class=\"modern-footnotes-scroll-to-footnote\" aria-label=\"Back to reference 6 in text\">\u21a9\ufe0e<\/a><\/div><\/li><li id=\"footnote-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-7\"><span>7<\/span><div><span style=\"color:blue\">See my \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/infinite-objective-reality-in-a-finite-idea-why-should-it-require-an-infinite-cause\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Infinite Objective Reality in a Finite Idea: Why Should It Require an Infinite Cause?<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d<br><br><\/span> <a href=\"#mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-7\" class=\"modern-footnotes-scroll-to-footnote\" aria-label=\"Back to reference 7 in text\">\u21a9\ufe0e<\/a><\/div><\/li><li id=\"footnote-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-8\"><span>8<\/span><div><span style=\"color:blue\">See my \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/cartesian-ideas-that-do-or-do-not-contain-objective-reality-representational-content\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Where Objective Reality Occurs in Cartesian Thought: OR-Bearing Representata and Non-OR-Bearing Content<\/u><\/span><\/a>.\u201d<br><br><\/span> <a href=\"#mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-8\" class=\"modern-footnotes-scroll-to-footnote\" aria-label=\"Back to reference 8 in text\">\u21a9\ufe0e<\/a><\/div><\/li><li id=\"footnote-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-9\"><span>9<\/span><div><span style=\"color:blue\">See my posts:<br>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/the-core-dtoi-argument-sensations-without-cartesian-objective-reality\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>The Core DTOI Argument: Sensations Without Cartesian Objective Reality<\/u><\/span>,<\/a>\u201d<br>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/why-there-are-no-successful-candidates-for-sq-sensations-objective-reality-content\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Why There Are No Successful Candidates For SQ-Sensations Objective Reality Content<\/u><\/span><\/a>,\u201d<br>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/objective-reality\/do-cartesian-sensations-have-objective-reality-strict-ideas-broad-ideas-and-material-falsity-in-descartess-theory-of-ideas\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>Do Cartesian Sensations Have Objective Reality?: Strict Ideas, Broad Ideas, And Material Falsity In Descartes\u2019s Theory Of Ideas<\/u><\/span><\/a>,\u201d and <br>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/orientation\/how-my-dtoi-baseline-accounts-for-material-falsity\/\"><span style=\"color:blue\"><u>How My DTOI Baseline Accounts For The Material Falsity Of Secondary Quality Sensations<\/u><\/span><\/a>\u201d to name a few.<\/span><br><br><br><br> <a href=\"#mfn-content-00000000000037420000000000000000_46187-9\" class=\"modern-footnotes-scroll-to-footnote\" aria-label=\"Back to reference 9 in text\">\u21a9\ufe0e<\/a><\/div><\/li><\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Introduction Descartes\u2019s use of the word \u201cidea\u201d is undeniably non-univocal, but this ambiguity is not itself an overlooked feature of his theory. Modern Cartesian commentators have recognized that Descartes sometimes uses idea strictly for thoughts that are tanquam rerum imagines, \u201cas it were the images of things\u201d (AT VII 37;&nbsp;CSM II, 25) [I prefer \u201cas [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":46539,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_xspeed_no_cache":false,"_xspeed_expiry_hours":0,"footnotes":"","ekit_post_views_count":"393"},"categories":[59],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-46187","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-idea"],"custom_fields":{"ekit_post_views_count":"393","footnotes":""},"featured_image_src":"https:\/\/drdavidcring.net\/descartes-ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/SIX_ED5C154A-96B5-4506-87B7-A8952F6DD2A1.jpeg","author_info":{"info":["Dr. David C. 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